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Csjarrat

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« Reply #15 on: <01-30-17/0947:07> »
I thought modifying RCC's with sleaze/attack was errata'd out? 

A cheap deck and some hacking skills is not that huge of an investment and does give this option to riggers.   
As far as i'm aware that was regarding using the dongles on RCC's/ they are commlink only but there's a chance i might have missed an errata somewhere. The attack/sleaze ratings can be put on literally anything, even a toaster or a drone (which makes hacker AI drones pretty useful)
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« Reply #16 on: <01-30-17/1009:58> »
To be precise: There hasn't been any official errata yet, despite a few volunteers excellent efforts.
What we have is the stated intent of the writer that dongles should not work on RCCs. By RAW they have all the functions of a commlink and therefore should be dongle compatible.

Entirely separate from that is the modding of matrix attributes. Even a wifi enabled toaster can be given a sleaze attribute (although that's not really useful beyond making it a bit harder to find the toaster on the matrix)

Even cheap decks can be veritable:
A cheap Erica can have the 2 matrix attribute lowered to 1 and the 4 elevated to 5 (5 3 1 1) add a module with virtual machine to the slot and you have three cyber programs available. Use the configurator program to have an attack and a defense config with the relevant +1 programs and one other useful prog.
Finally get Overclocker and Perfect Timing.
Leaving Data Processing at 3 at all times you now can switch rapidly between your action stat and firewall for what is in essence a 1 7 3 7 deck with one program for operation.

Costs: 10 (20 after char gen) karma and about 55 000 nuyen.
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« Reply #17 on: <01-30-17/1151:58> »
I thought modifying RCC's with sleaze/attack was errata'd out? 

A cheap deck and some hacking skills is not that huge of an investment and does give this option to riggers.   

Sleaze is also used for staying undetected in the Matrix, which is important for infiltrating/scouting a location with Drones, the fact that it was left out in the first place was already bullshit,
and basicially made it impossible to get Drones in anywhere with a Spider. Requiring a Deck in addition to everything else a Rigger needs, just to do something you're already supposed to do, isn't really a good solution.
A good dongle isn't exactly cheaper then a Deck, but you don't run into Slave/Master issues that way.
Can a device be  slaved to two different master devices?
Wouldn't break the either Master or Slave rule, and having multiple PANs was never an issue.
It could be one way around the "no Dongle for RCC" issue. Simply Slave your drones to both the RCC and a commlink+dongle/deck, enjoy being able to stealth.

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« Reply #18 on: <01-31-17/1102:50> »

Sleaze is also used for staying undetected in the Matrix, which is important for infiltrating/scouting a location with Drones, the fact that it was left out in the first place was already bullshit,
and basicially made it impossible to get Drones in anywhere with a Spider.

Word. Iīm fine with the fact that Riggers have to invest in a Deck (or beefed up commlink) if they want to serve as secondary hackers, but having only Logic to defend against Matrix deception is a huge problem for any kind of stealthy approach (one of the most fun parts of rigging, IMO). Would have been a nice addition in the Rigger book. But alas...

Anyway:
I recently introduced a neat little houserule because of this: Since the RCC is already somewhat flexible in its configuration (meaning that you can distribute [device rating] points into either Programm Access oder Nose Reduction), I added a new "Concealment" Ressource that serves as a kind "passive" Sleaze Attribute: While you canīt use it as a limit for your own Matrix Actions, it still offers additional protection against Matrix Perception and Tracing attempts. In total, you can distribute your RCCīs device rating over up to 4 different Ressources:
  • Programm Access: Shares Autosofts as usual. However, I removed that stupid, stupid, stupid rule that forces the drone to use either the RCCīs or its own Autosofts. Also, loading (and, if applicable, sharing) Cyberprogramms, Apps, the Swarm Programm, Agents and KIs use up points of this Ressource (Probably RAI in parts, but not stated clearly)
  • Noise Reduction: No Changes here. Serves as Noise reduction and offers bonus die for some actions
  • Concealment (New): "Passive" Stealth attribute, helping against detection via the Matrix.
  • Targeting Data (New): Each point allows for sharing acquired targeting Data against one target between the RCCīs slaved drones. Makes active targeting more usefull.
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