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What's the deal with out of print sourcebooks?

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mori57

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« on: <02-05-17/2205:19> »
Went to your site to see if there was word on restocks of the Street Grimoire for 5th Ed., as I can't find it anymore at small-potatoes places like Barnes & Noble or Amazon. Found the FAQ page which has less than nothing useful to say...

How many years has this site been around?

Maybe you could take a break from trying to "reinvent" Shadowrun with stuff like Encounters and Crossfire and get some people on making sure the sourcebooks are on shelves? If you're having trouble selling them, you might think about, say, dropping the hardcover and full color mess and make them affordable rather than "collectors" editions.

Also, what the hell is with CAPTCHA all over the place? I mean, once on login, ok, but on every post??

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« Reply #1 on: <02-05-17/2222:35> »
First up, about the Captcha: It only tests you on every post for the first few posts. Just to be sure you aren't a robot. It's to discourage spamming accounts.

Second, as far as the books go, Catalyst is actually working on making a better price-point for the books. They've actually reprinted Street Grimoire recently as a softcover book.

Which might actually be the source of the problem, places like Barnes & Noble and Amazon might be confused about the new printing being a different binding type. I don't know anything about their catalog systems, and I don't know this for sure, but it could very easily be the source of the problem.

Catalyst has actually recently revised their own online "shop" so you could try checking that out: store.catalystgamelabs.com

mori57

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« Reply #2 on: <02-05-17/2325:06> »
Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the steam... just frustrated. The official SR site is in shambles, and I didn't see any posts about reprints, nor did our friend Google seem to have anything on the matter.

That's really good news about the softcover editions, however.

Don't get me wrong; the art in the latest editions is beautiful, and the stories are thematic and really give you a good feel for the world, but it's really hard for a skinflint like me to even suggest to new players picking up the supplements. Knowing that there are softcovers coming out soon helps, to an extent. I think what got to me was that I keep seeing DriveThru RPG deals and things about the Valiant RPG line, then see things like Encounters (which I fear to touch, after seeing how Crossfire was put together, and reviews have not been kind to Encounters, either), and it makes me wonder what's going on. I see a lot of activity in the fiction section about Shadowrun, but not so much about the game itself.

The CAPTCHA ... ok, I kind of get that, but there are all sorts of means to verify users, and this one is damn hard to read. That, or I /still/ need those fragging cybereyes implanted. Probably the latter.

Thanks, and again, sorry for the rantish. I'll keep my ears open for news on the reprints.

MijRai

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« Reply #3 on: <02-05-17/2354:43> »
It's the first...  Ten posts, I believe.  It might be aggravating at first, but since I think I've only ever seen a single spam-poster on the forums since I joined up, I'd say it is rather effective. 

And yes, there are troubles with Shadowrun in 5th Edition.  A lot of us have problems with it, believe me.  I currently have more love for Shadowrun than dislike for Catalyst at the moment, which is why I'm still around (and on the Errata team). 
Would you want to go into a place where the resident had a drum-fed shotgun and can see in the dark?

AJCarrington

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« Reply #4 on: <02-06-17/1508:41> »
As has been noted, the reprints tend to be soft covers. Street Grimoire was reprinted and is available through distribution...I tend to look at online sites such as Miniature Market and CSI vs B&N/Amazon, but YMMV.

Senko

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« Reply #5 on: <02-06-17/1727:11> »
I feel your pain on Captcha always have trouble reading those and figuring out what I need to put in. I'm waiting for crossfire to become available as an android app myself.

mori57

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« Reply #6 on: <02-06-17/2139:48> »
As has been noted, the reprints tend to be soft covers. Street Grimoire was reprinted and is available through distribution...I tend to look at online sites such as Miniature Market and CSI vs B&N/Amazon, but YMMV.

Around Christmas, I tried looking at MM, and they had a couple copies of the hardcover Grimoire, didn't see any listing for a softcover at the time.

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« Reply #7 on: <02-06-17/2209:37> »
I feel your pain on Captcha always have trouble reading those and figuring out what I need to put in.

You should try it with dyslexia, it's super fun! The ones where they just took a picture of some street numbers on a house aren't too bad, but the ones where the letters and numbers dance about? Those test just how strongly I don't want to buy a new monitor, every single time.  >:(

Senko

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« Reply #8 on: <02-07-17/0145:28> »
Oh yes the ones designed to "defeat" image indentification software that leave me staring at it and going "Is that a i or just a background line?"

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« Reply #9 on: <02-07-17/0159:10> »
I often go just with the PDFs (mostly from DriveThruRPG), especially for the extra books.  I put them on a tablet and that way I have a lot less to transport to the gaming location as well.

And if there are one or two pages you always reference, you can just print those off if you want.

Anyway, that's my 27 cents (the first documented reference to 2 cents was in 1926, so I've adjusted for inflation :) ).
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Senko

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« Reply #10 on: <02-07-17/0529:41> »
Out of curiousity do you find they tech awhile to load or is that just my older tablet?

farothel

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« Reply #11 on: <02-07-17/0707:25> »
It depends.  I don't know about the shadowrun books, as I don't have any of those in PDF, but for other systems, it depends on the size of the book.  The ones where the PDF is just an image scan of the pages they can take quite some time to load.  PDF which are clearly created as such are much faster (those files are also smaller in general).  And my tablet is also not the youngest either.

If they take a long time to load, I often load them before the session so they are in the memory and then if you need them they open much quicker.
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Senko

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« Reply #12 on: <02-07-17/0851:25> »
Ah that's probably it I thought it was just most of the newer ones had some better coding or the like but it must just be that they're being produced more as an actual PDF rather than as an optional extra for the physical book when I get them now.

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« Reply #13 on: <02-07-17/0855:02> »
As has been noted, the reprints tend to be soft covers. Street Grimoire was reprinted and is available through distribution...I tend to look at online sites such as Miniature Market and CSI vs B&N/Amazon, but YMMV.
Around Christmas, I tried looking at MM, and they had a couple copies of the hardcover Grimoire, didn't see any listing for a softcover at the time.

That's strange...I got my copy from them in November. :-\