[Charybdis]

Educate them the way I do, with a prime runner street samurai that hunts down dishonorable acting characters and makes examples of them. 

I love this idea +1 for you!

I had a prime runner vampire phys-ad enforcer NPC in my campaigns many, many moons ago (SR2 perhaps?)... he was the perfect bogey-man. Wouldn't take many tweaks to set him up like your suggestion....

[Morg]

One of my PCs (the Hacker) made a spirit pack with a Grim Reaper (from running wild) he gains immunity to Aging for the ritual sacrifice of a sentient life each week, he always picks orks and Trolls

Another PC is a Mystic Adept BTL additct that turns tricks as a joy boy to make ends meet

The PC that plays the sammie is a card carrying member of M.O.M. and donates half her earnings to the cause and saves lives when ever they can

the Face is also the PCs street doc and likes to go in to detail about what he puts in or takes out of bodies

[Charybdis]

One of my PCs (the Hacker) made a spirit pack with a Grim Reaper (from running wild) he gains immunity to Aging for the ritual sacrifice of a sentient life each week, he always picks orks and Trolls

Another PC is a Mystic Adept BTL additct that turns tricks as a joy boy to make ends meet

The PC that plays the sammie is a card carrying member of M.O.M. and donates half her earnings to the cause and saves lives when ever they can

the Face is also the PCs street doc and likes to go in to detail about what he puts in or takes out of bodies

Very interesting Group

I stand by my statement on the Hacker though. Such a PC cannot remain in the shadows with such a high profile. The Grim Reaper pact just makes things worse by inviting Astral scrutiny (by giving this otherwise Mundane hacker a glowing presence on the Astral plane), which simply invites attention from unfriendly spirit entities....

Can you imagine a casual spirit or mage walking past going, hmm, what's that...WHAT THE HELL IS IN YOUR AURA ?

It's the astral equivalent of walking through a mall covered in blood and carrying a steak-knife...people will notice....
Edit: If the hacker is lucky, it's only PEOPLE who'll notice. Other astral forms will have zero reservations about manifesting and taking action immediately....

[Morg]

One of my PCs (the Hacker) made a spirit pack with a Grim Reaper (from running wild) he gains immunity to Aging for the ritual sacrifice of a sentient life each week, he always picks orks and Trolls

Another PC is a Mystic Adept BTL additct that turns tricks as a joy boy to make ends meet

The PC that plays the sammie is a card carrying member of M.O.M. and donates half her earnings to the cause and saves lives when ever they can

the Face is also the PCs street doc and likes to go in to detail about what he puts in or takes out of bodies

Very interesting Group

I stand by my statement on the Hacker though. Such a PC cannot remain in the shadows with such a high profile. The Grim Reaper pact just makes things worse by inviting Astral scrutiny (by giving this otherwise Mundane hacker a glowing presence on the Astral plane), which simply invites attention from unfriendly spirit entities....

Can you imagine a casual spirit or mage walking past going, hmm, what's that...WHAT THE HELL IS IN YOUR AURA ?

It's the astral equivalent of walking through a mall covered in blood and carrying a steak-knife...people will notice....

They do the last run was messed up because of the Hackers aura.

also note that my PCs like the fact that I will let them kill each other not that it happens that often and when something like this happens I talk to everyone individually after the game to see if they are all right with what is happening and make sure no ones feelings get too injured

also to note the team hacker is a para pelagic at the moment because of actions done by the sammie

[thalandar]

I guess I really am an Old Fart, I just remember the appeal of Shadowrun being to bring a small amount of light into a world full of darkness.

[Rockopolis]

"Game's the same, just got more fierce."

Educate them the way I do, with a prime runner street samurai that hunts down dishonorable acting characters and makes examples of them. 

Heh...Hachetman?

[Charybdis]

Educate them the way I do, with a prime runner street samurai that hunts down dishonorable acting characters and makes examples of them. 

Heh...Hachetman?

Didn't he get Cyber-zombie'd in the end?

They do the last run was messed up because of the Hackers aura.

also note that my PCs like the fact that I will let them kill each other not that it happens that often and when something like this happens I everyone individually after the game if they are allright with what is happening so no ones feelings get too injured

also to note the team hacker is a para pelagic at the moment because of actions done by the sammie

I'm similar. Let the PC's do what they will, and certainly get away with it in the short term. But building up a regular sacrificial  body-count should likewise build up some intense long-term consequences
Edit: Not dissing Paraplegia, but that's hardly a detriment to a PC that can perform their Shadowrunning role via remote...

[Rockopolis]

Educate them the way I do, with a prime runner street samurai that hunts down dishonorable acting characters and makes examples of them. 

Heh...Hachetman?

Didn't he get Cyber-zombie'd in the end?

Yeah, unfortunately.  But hey, that'd just make being an object of vengeance even more batshit terrifying.

Hah, the Dread Samurai Roberts?  Immortal scourge of evil?

[Morg]

I guess I really am an Old Fart, I just remember the appeal of Shadowrun being to bring a small amount of light into a world full of darkness.

it is more about what mood the PCs are in some times even in 1^st edition some days they just didn't feel like having a single shred of humanity then other times they wright up a rocker singing about the good fight or a pirate news caster telling the truth. so do not despair

[thalandar]

Educate them the way I do, with a prime runner street samurai that hunts down dishonorable acting characters and makes examples of them. 

Heh...Hachetman?

Didn't he get Cyber-zombie'd in the end?

Yeah, unfortunately.  But hey, that'd just make being an object of vengeance even more batshit terrifying.

Hah, the Dread Samurai Roberts?  Immortal scourge of evil?

No one would surrender to the Dread Samurai Wesly 

[Morg]

Edit: Not dissing Paraplegia, but that's hardly a detriment to a PC that can perform their Shadowrunning role via remote...

until he gets his new cyberlegs hunting down that sacrifice will be more difficult beside there will be something more interesting over the horizon for them

Ares found out that they stole the factory manufacturing specs(a run in Detroit) for the Ares Predator IV and the Ares Alpha combat gun and have manufacturing and selling knock offs in Seattle made out of Plasteel 7 for the last 6 months.

[Charybdis]

Hah, the Dread Samurai Roberts?  Immortal scourge of evil?

No one would surrender to the Dread Samurai Wesly 

I'm so incredibly pleased that even in Shadowrun, the Princess Bride can be casually integrated into the conversation. Bravo and +1 to you both!

[FastJack]

I guess I really am an Old Fart, I just remember the appeal of Shadowrun being to bring a small amount of light into a world full of darkness.

It's just a fact that the young 'uns are raised on GTA and "Kill them all" games anymore... <sigh>

[Charybdis]

I guess I really am an Old Fart, I just remember the appeal of Shadowrun being to bring a small amount of light into a world full of darkness.

It's just a fact that the young 'uns are raised on GTA and "Kill them all" games anymore... <sigh>

Indeed...where's a good game of 'Risk' when you need it?!

[Critias]

I guess I really am an Old Fart, I just remember the appeal of Shadowrun being to bring a small amount of light into a world full of darkness.

Don't worry.  It's not gone entirely.