[Xelian]

I've given up on that. You either have plenty of time to clean up everything or you don't and you leave it. But talking about spells - how does spells with a range of touch and LOS interact? If I cast invisibility on a party member can I leave him out of my LOS or the spell will drop if I do? Same with buffs and Physical Mask.

P.S I didn't know you can't clean auras if you cannot Astrally perceive. Another thing that screw up Mystic Adepts. There are close to zero benefits of playing one now. Especially with the split magic between spell/points. I'm seriously considering giving Mystic Adepts the ability to see the Astral for free even if they can't go there.

[Xenon]

Mystic adept can get adept powers (which is pretty huge). This is something full magician cannot get. For this they have to pay for astral perception and they cannot use astral projection. A lot of people would consider mystic adept coming out on top here....

[Xelian]

Mystic adept can get adept powers (which is pretty huge). This is something full magician cannot get. For this they have to pay for astral perception and they cannot use astral projection. A lot of people would consider mystic adept coming out on top here....

In the long run - perhaps. But in a relatively shorter adventure - Not so much. But that's why everything is a subject o DM approval.

[Michael Chandra]

In a shorter game you are trading in a few spells and astral projection for the ability to throw buffs you'd need a spell and a sustaining method for into a permanent boost that can't be taken away. Really don't see why they're considered underpowered.