[All4BigGuns]

So how potent is the Draco Foundation's wish, barring immortality. It seems you can have anything you want, does it include personal access to the Thor Shots?

Maybe.

"Oh, you want a Thor Shot? Go on home and it will be delivered." *a few hours later after the character is home* "Fire." *character's neighborhood now vaporized*

[Mirikon]

No, sorry. The megas will never hand over Thor to a single person. They just won't. And I don't care if the run is to assassinate all the dragons put together, calling in weapons of mass destruction is a sure-fire way to get yourself very, very dead. You know how stealth-killing every guard you see is a good way to get a corp reprisal team after you? Now picture what happens when you nuke a city.

As I say, you can also pawn it off to a Mega for cash and their loyalty for having a bargaining chip since it is an overkill weapon and effectively a DEM in a run. Remember the foundation offers one wish and I think total control of the Thor Shot system isn't something beyond them.

No, it very much is beyond the Draco Foundation's abilities to get hold of a Thor shot. Orbital weapons are controlled directly by the Corporate Court. At best, the DF can ask the Court to hand them over. But they won't, because they know the Court would simply say "Hell no!" and set about trying to tear down the DF for even considering such a thing. The very possibility that command and control of orbital weapons was compromised caused the whole system to be shut down until the protocols could be replaced and security upgraded.

[Sendaz]

However, the Draco Foundation may know a few dragons willing to fly with a big rock really really high to drop on a target.

[Red Canti]

So how potent is the Draco Foundation's wish, barring immortality. It seems you can have anything you want, does it include personal access to the Thor Shots?

Maybe.

"Oh, you want a Thor Shot? Go on home and it will be delivered." *a few hours later after the character is home* "Fire." *character's neighborhood now vaporized*

That would be grimderp, even for Shadowrun.

[Crimsondude]

I cannot accept the idea that all Thor shots are under CC control, and there was almost certainly a time when that was not the case.

I'm sure that in the maneuvering that eventually led to Vogel running AresSpace, which was the crown jewel before Knight came onboard and focused on Knight Errant, allowed Daviar (or the DF under their stewardship of her seat/assets) to possibly take direct control of even one.

[Mirikon]

Maybe. But the fact remains that launching Thor without the approval of the Corporate Court or a national military is going to result in annihilation of the group responsible. You'd have a bounty on your head so large it makes the bounties on blood mages and toxic shamans look like loose change you found under the couch cushions.

And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.

[Crimsondude]

There's no strategic need to use one most of the time. But that's also just politics.

[Tzeentch]

The traditional conception of Thor shots ("rods from god") was more akin to precision artillery or PGM strikes. The Shadowrun version has tended to be more towards the "drop asteroids" scale, which is a bit hard to ignore

[gyrobot]

Maybe. But the fact remains that launching Thor without the approval of the Corporate Court or a national military is going to result in annihilation of the group responsible. You'd have a bounty on your head so large it makes the bounties on blood mages and toxic shamans look like loose change you found under the couch cushions.

And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.

Well to be fair though, you would not believe how much people would pay to get that off your hands and how much they will protect you to make sure that happens.

[Sendaz]

And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.

Friendly has nothing to do with business. 

The Foundation does clash with them and no doubt has extensive portfolios on many many dragons, but that would also mean they may know who may be financially or otherwise persuaded to a task or two.

While the Greats are certainly well off, the younger ones are still hungry for land and loot of their own, the smarter ones have and will sell those services within certain parameters.  You would not even have the Foundation playing middle man, just pointing you in the right direction is all.

[Crimsondude]

And no, Sendaz, the dragons are not friendly with the Draco Foundation. They but heads quite a bit, over the things in Dunkelzahn's will, Drakes, artifacts, and so on.

There's a Great Dragon on the board of trustees (Masaru), and others who are at the least indifferent to the DF.

The only ones that have actively opposed the DF are Ghostwalker, Hestaby, and Lofwyr through S-K. But it's never been depicted as anything strategic, but rather specific clashes.

[DeathStrobe]

To the first party to identify the victim in the accompanying photo and bring his five perpetrators to justice, I leave the access codes to my property in Paris. The Draco Foundation will release the codes upon receipt and verification of a complete account of the investigation, including the fate of the victim and the perpetrators.

What's the story with these 5 hooded guys and the victim?

[redwolf]

hate crime, why the big d chose that foto ?that is the Q

[DeathStrobe]

hate crime, why the big d chose that foto ?that is the Q

So there was never a novel or adventure source that explained it? So that means its GM fodder I guess.

[Crimsondude]

Yep. The vast majority of them are just plot hooks for GMs.