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Batman, what would he Be?

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« Reply #15 on: <04-08-12/1234:03> »
unfortunately i can't seem to post what I have so far cuz i can't figure out how to make chummer give me a text file
so as soon as someone tells me how to do that i can post what i've done so far
but as of know using 2000 points, bp char. gen. I can see that he is stupid powerful since he ranks 4,5, or 6 in almost everything and i haven't even started on his knowledge skills.

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« Reply #16 on: <04-08-12/1430:22> »
One of the guys in my game is playing Batman as a heavily Bio'ed Ork. It works.
I thaght he was a non augmented human with lots of training and tech toys.

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« Reply #17 on: <04-08-12/1555:51> »
Batman would never be in Shadowrun.  When his parents got killed, Wayne Corp would have gotten gobbled up by the megas in very short order.  Bruce probably would have been whisked away to a special orphanage to be raised and promptly die from a tragic childhood disease, releasing any claim he had on his inheritance.

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« Reply #18 on: <04-08-12/1633:41> »
The trouble with Batman is that he comes from a universe with very different rules, one where completely unaugmented, unawakened people can become skilled to the point that they can do things that multi-initiate adepts and cyberzombies can't do.  In Shadowrun, mundane characters are simply third-rate in everything.  So to make Batman in Shadowrun, he needs to be an augmented adept with lots of high-availability gear to emulate the character from the comics.

The other problem with Batman is that he is a paragon, someone who is at the pinnacle of human achievement physically and mentally, with mastery of many skills.  He is a generalist with the skill level of a hyper-specialist.  In game terms, in a game where seasoned professional criminals (shadowrunners) have to make sacrifices to even be soft-maxed in their most important Attributes, and can only start out with one skill of 6, Batman would work out to an incredibly high number of build points or karma points if you costed him out.

I think you are better off, instead of trying to recreate the Batman (okay, so you have a ludicrously powerful person who overshadows all of the PCs and doesn't quite fit in this universe - now what?), you should create a Batman-inspired PC or NPC based on an aspect or two of Batman that appeals to you.  A cunning detective.  A masked, augmented vigilante.  A sneaky guy with lots of gadgets.  And go from there.

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« Reply #19 on: <04-08-12/1652:50> »
Yea Bat man whould have a ton of karma he has been fighting crime for what 50 years early comics it was more detective work and fighting skill, with acrobatics over time he mastered every thing.

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« Reply #20 on: <04-09-12/0445:53> »
One of the guys in my game is playing Batman as a heavily Bio'ed Ork. It works.
I thaght he was a non augmented human with lots of training and tech toys.

Only in a World without Magic (Orks or Adepts) or Cyberware
The Batman of SR would surely use every Edge he can get (Delta Grade 'ware) to be able to fight Crime
Even if only to be able to counter Cybered-up Criminals

(Or just read Glyphs post which says it all . Applause :D )

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« Reply #21 on: <04-09-12/1427:25> »
Right, yup. What Medicineman and Glyph said - my guy goes mainly for the masked, augmented vigilante btw, although he's pretty sneaky too.

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« Reply #22 on: <04-09-12/1446:53> »
See, I vehemently disagree. Batman would NOT augment himself. Think about the amount of augmentations that ARE available in the DC universe (Prosthetics/Cyberware like Cyborg and Metallo). He doesn't use them there, I don't think he'd slice up his body to use them here.

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« Reply #23 on: <04-09-12/1501:33> »
I think he would, augmentation is too common in Shadowrun to just ignore it. If you could guarantee a one on one fight from ambush it might not be such a big deal, but one unaugmented norm vs. 2 or more augmented or god help him magically active targets is toast.

I would have to say he'd be an adept at minimum. 
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« Reply #24 on: <04-09-12/1610:10> »
unfortunately i can't seem to post what I have so far cuz i can't figure out how to make chummer give me a text file
so as soon as someone tells me how to do that i can post what i've done so far

I just found this while making my first character :)

Hit print, and it'll open the Character Viewer.  At the top, on the right, there's a drop menu labelled "Character Sheet."  Click there, and choose "Text-Only."

That said, if you've the patience for data entry (I probably wouldn't, with that many points in the build), there's a handy character sheet code over in the Play-by-Post forum.
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« Reply #25 on: <04-09-12/1611:02> »
Hrm. I think I'll have to build up Brucie tonight. Figure 600 BP and 200 Karma?

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« Reply #26 on: <04-09-12/1628:30> »
Hrm. I think I'll have to build up Brucie tonight. Figure 600 BP and 200 Karma?

at least
and If you don't give him 'ware give him at least a Milspec Suit
SR Goons(unlinke DC Goons) have 'ware and/or use Boosterdrugs  so they're are tougher than the DC Counterparts

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« Reply #27 on: <04-09-12/1647:13> »
Hrm. I think I'll have to build up Brucie tonight. Figure 600 BP and 200 Karma?

You'll need at least 2000 BP just for his permanent Luxury Lifestyle.
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« Reply #28 on: <04-09-12/1649:10> »
I've gotta disagree on the mundanes notes. You can make a very capable mundane if you know what you're doing, especially if you have some decent karma under your belt and are willing to use performance boosters. With the funding batman would have, it shouldn't be hard at all.

That said, I think he'd use every tech advantage at his disposal and definitely go the augmented route, but mundanes are still viable in SR, just few and far between because magicing it up and get some cyber is much easier. In the end, the difference ends up being about a hit, unless you're comparing a mundane to the max efficiency munchkinized 40 DP elf sniper or 60 DP troll resistance.

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« Reply #29 on: <04-09-12/1728:36> »
Crash, by performance boosters, you mean drugs right? Or something else? Cos I don't think any argument about wanting to avoid cyber/bio for purity reasons particularly allows drugs...