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[OOC] Liberated Wealth

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« Reply #135 on: <05-31-12/1158:18> »
Hmm, how about a biofeedback filter? Attacks that work on armor can't really harm you, only your persona. Though armor might be important to buy you time, if you do other stuff. Preventing fights in the first place is actually a solid strategy... unless you glitch ;-)

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« Reply #136 on: <05-31-12/1204:21> »
Rybka is running Biofeedback filter; but she is running in Hot-Sim; so, damage made to her persona will hurt her for real.
I have posted it before, but Rybka's current program set looks like that:

Quote from: Programs running on Commlink
Payload limit without Responce reduction = 5 Ergonomic programs and 4 Non-Ergonomic ones
Ergonomic Programs Running
    Analyze 5
    Exploit 5
    Reality Filter 5
    Stealth 5
    Scan 5
Non-Ergonomic Programs Running
    Encrypt 5
    Biofeedback Filter 3
    Command 5
    Edit 5

She would make some changes here and there based on the information she would get from the Analysis she tried to do, and then use the time she still had to suit herself for what the situation demanded, but I guess that glitch will mean she will be caught red-handed.

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« Reply #137 on: <05-31-12/1501:27> »
I think Netz's comment on the IC thread is referring to:
Quote from: Unwired, p. 97; Legitimate Accounts
Nodes expect a certain amount of traffic from normal users, and for many work-related nodes even some off-hours access from home or private terminals is typical or expected. A hacker who steals the passcode to a legitimate account can, with care, continue to make use of that account for some time before a spider notices anything, if they ever do.

A hacker who has hacked the node may also create a "legit" account on the system (see Hackers & Editing, p. 225, SR4) and then hide the fact that they created it. This requires a successful Software + Editing Test if you have at least security privileges on the node, or a Hacking + Edit (2) Test if you do not. For security level access, increase the threshold to 3; for admin access, increase it to 4. New accounts of course show up on security audits and are usually carefully scrutinized for legitimacy. All of the account’s actions are also logged—it’s not hidden, as it was created with the facade of a legitimate account. A verifiable account on a corporate system combined with a fake SIN and/or records that the hacker is employed by that corporation can make a very convincing cover story for an infiltration.
(emphasis added)

Note that this section is followed by this one:
Quote from: Unwired, p. 97; Hidden Accounts
A hidden account is not visible to spiders or administrators, being discernible only by the system. While this account allows the hacker to access the node freely, it is still subject to account privilege limitations and spiders who perceive the character will assume them to be trespassing as they will not appear to have an account.

To create a hidden account, you must already have access to the node (either legit or hacked) and must follow the procedure for creating a legitimate account noted above. On the next action, the legitimate account must then be hidden with a Hacking + Stealth (Firewall, 10 minutes) Extended Test. As with any other account, this hidden account has a unique passcode; anyone with that passcode may access that account. Previously existing legitimate accounts may also be transformed into hidden accounts this way, but the access log must also be modified or a security audit will show an account mysteriously disappeared.

I doubt Rybka's going to worry too much about hiding the account, but I figured I'd throw it in for completeness.
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« Reply #138 on: <05-31-12/1510:53> »
Unless someone knows a good reason otherwise, I would say jump in right now and either wreck the car or fire those missles so it comes into the killzone unarmed, even better, wreck it and fire it's missles to damage the APC and/or the drone.  Dunno about the rest of you, but I am not keen on Smiley walking out into that street and staring down a missle launcher.

Yes it would be a tip off, but if it done right maybe it could be read as someone just out pulling pranks in the Matrix.  If the team decides to turtle up we are no worse off, but I figure they are on a timetable and will move on without the disables hummer.  I would prefer one less vehicle, five less combatants, and one less bad ass heavy weapon to deal with in the killzone.=

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« Reply #139 on: <05-31-12/1514:53> »
I think Marak can appreciate not staring down a launcher as well
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« Reply #140 on: <05-31-12/1516:22> »
Hank may be disappointed if he doesn't get to blow up the van, but as long as the mission works out...
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« Reply #141 on: <05-31-12/1531:17> »
Unless someone knows a good reason otherwise, I would say jump in right now and either wreck the car or fire those missles so it comes into the killzone unarmed
I agree, not sure the account will survive the minutes until the cars arrive at our spot, with the intruder alert ahead. We shouldn't miss the opportunity. Better mess with them as much as possible already.

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« Reply #142 on: <05-31-12/1534:49> »
Rybka is just informing Tachikoma what she knows. As you can see, even though us as players know that she botched up her quiet hacking attempt, she does not know it, and would like to keep to the plan. And it seems like she is the one who favours subtlety the most in this group, after all.

But Tachikoma can jump in at any time; the thing is that there will probably be cybercombat really soon (one CT from now)...

Also, I know that about hidden accounts (good thing you posted it, even then, Serious). Rybka is not really worried about that, making it hidden takes too much time, and not all systems keep analyzing this kind of data all the time, most will just checked it's access and change logs once a day.

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« Reply #143 on: <05-31-12/1536:23> »
Unless someone knows a good reason otherwise, I would say jump in right now and either wreck the car or fire those missles so it comes into the killzone unarmed
I agree, not sure the account will survive the minutes until the cars arrive at our spot, with the intruder alert ahead. We shouldn't miss the opportunity. Better mess with them as much as possible already.

Trust me, the account will survive long enough (Rybka is not prepared for cybercombat, but even then she is quite skilled on the Matrix; if really needed, she will just take the node down with everything that's in it). But I'm not against Tachi jumping right now on the car.

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« Reply #144 on: <05-31-12/1540:56> »
Rybka is just informing Tachikoma what she knows. As you can see, even though us as players know that she botched up her quiet hacking attempt, she does not know it, and would like to keep to the plan
Right, good thinking. Easy to overlook something like that.

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« Reply #145 on: <05-31-12/1641:01> »
I think the moment Tachikoma jumps in the alarm will go off and some smack down will occur
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« Reply #146 on: <05-31-12/1906:22> »
I think the moment Tachikoma jumps in the alarm will go off and some smack down will occur

Well seeing as how you are the GM, I will choose not to disagree with you on that point  ;D

That said though is it possible for Rybka to defend Tachi long enough for him to do the kind of damage we need?  I thought that kind of thing was possible in cybercombat.  (I am much better at the magic than the matrix, one of the reasons I don't try to run games anymore)

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« Reply #147 on: <05-31-12/1909:50> »
At the risk of disagreeing with the GM, Tach is going to be jumping in with an apparently legitimate account; no alarm should sound unless he does something that the system is specifically not allowing.

Of course, if these guys are really paranoid, the system may not be allowing extra users to log in, but that's a pretty extreme level of caution...I'd be hard pressed to think of an instance where I would think to put such a limit in place.

Naturally, though, the final call belongs to Serious. And if he's dropping a hint about how he's running things, it might be worthwhile to listen. :)
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« Reply #148 on: <05-31-12/1950:15> »
That said though is it possible for Rybka to defend Tachi long enough for him to do the kind of damage we need?  I thought that kind of thing was possible in cybercombat.  (I am much better at the magic than the matrix, one of the reasons I don't try to run games anymore)

Quite probably. Rybka is not an ace in cybercombat, but she can hold her fight, and there are some tricks she can pull out to make the enemy unable to do much.

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« Reply #149 on: <06-01-12/0222:51> »
At the risk of disagreeing with the GM, Tach is going to be jumping in with an apparently legitimate account; no alarm should sound unless he does something that the system is specifically not allowing.
I don't think there is something like a secret jump-in. There is a current driver and if that driver loses control after someone jumped in, he will notice, no matter what. Lets just hope, there is enough confusion to sabotage them a little.

 

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