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FRANZ (Role: Complex Character)
Type III SURGE Changeling ("Lizard Man") (15 bp)

Qualities:
PQ: Guts (5), Lucky (20), Martial Arts (20)
NQ: Big Regret (+5), Vendetta (+5)

PMQ (35 pts): Saytr Legs (Raptor Legs), Claws, Fangs, Metagenic Improvement (Strength), Balance Tail

NMQ (15 pts free): Extravagant Eyes, Scales, Striking Skin Pigmentation

Attributes: (180 pts)
B 4 (6*), A 4, R 4 (7), S 5, C 2, I 3, L 3, W 3, E 3

Essence: 2.82
Initiative: 7 (10)
Initiative Passes: 1 (3)


ACTIVE SKILLS:
Archery 3
Athletics Skill Group 2 (+2)
Blades (Katana +3) 2
Firearms 5
First Aid 3
Intimidation 5
Artisan 3
Pistols 3
Longarms (Sniper Rifles +2) 2
Heavy Weapons 4
Unarmed Combat (Kyokushinkai Karate +2) 5

Knowledge Skills:
Body Building 4
Chemistry 2
Firearm Design 4
Martial Arts trivia 2
Swordsmithing 3
 
LANGUAGE SKILLS:
German N
English 3


GEAR & LIFESTYLE:

5 Flash-Paks; Armorer Facility; Lined Coat; Fundoshi; Armorer's Kit; Fake SIN (Rating 3); 2 Fake Licenses (Rating 3); Low Lifestyle (1 Month)

AUGMENTATIONS:
Bioware: Bone Density (Rating 2), Orthoskin (rating 2, +2 Ballistic and Impact ratings), Synaptic Booster (Rating 3), Synthacardium (Rating 2)

Cyberware: Betaware Skillwires (rating 3), Delta Skill Expert System, Beta Orientation System

MATRIX GEAR:

Novatech Airware Commlink [w/Renraku Ichi OS and Sim Module]; Contact Lenses [Rating 2, w/Image Link and Smartlink]; Programs [Analyze 2, Browse 2, Command 1, Edit 2]


WEAPONS:

Combat Axe; 2 Katanas; Medium Crossbow w/20 Bolts; 10 Throwing Knives; 10 Shuriken; 10 Fragmentation Grenades; Ares Predator IV [w/Quick Draw Holster and 10 clips of Explosive Ammo]; Yamaha Sakura Fubuki [w/Smartlink, Concealable Holster, and 80 rounds of Regular Ammo]; Walther MA-2100 [w/4 clips Regular Ammo]; Aztechnology Striker; Survival Knife; Stun Baton


CONTACTS:
Arms Dealer (Connection 2/Loyalty 2)
Fixer (Connection 2/Loyalty 2)
Mercenary (Connection 2/Loyalty 2)
Hotel Owner (Connection 3/Loyalty 5)

 
NOTES:
Freikoerperkultur lifestyler
3D6 + 100 nuyen starting money
As a German Special forces agent, he would be trained in some kind of advanced martial art.  He's trained in Kyokushinkai Karate -- the Karate where you can break through solid objects (see Ninjas and Superspies, page 94; also you can check the web).  He knows the following maneuvers:
Break Weapon, Finishing Move, Kick Attack, and Vicious Blow.

 

QUOTES:
"Nein, Lass ihn in Ruhe!"
No, leave him alone!

"Sag hallo zu meiner Faust, du Feigling!"
Meet my fast fist, you coward!

"Pass auf Meister, ich möchte nicht sehen dass du auf deine Nase fällst."
Watch yourself, Master.  I don't want to see you fall flat on your face.

"Mal sehen wie dir eine Ladung Narben stehen!"
Lets see how you like it!  Being all clawed up with scars!


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* Linked because most people don't know about Creative Commons licenses, or don't know that the better artist uses them.  The link will stand in until I can commission an artist dude.  I can possibly do it myself, but, I need Z-Brush. :D

Predguy's Velociraptor is posted for similarity of design.  It's posted because he does use a  Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 License.
« Last Edit: <06-16-12/2158:17> by Hermes »

Herr Novak

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« Reply #1 on: <06-10-12/1437:59> »
flower blooded would be "Blumenblut" in German, but it has such a poetic sound that it wouldn't be a very good insult. The most common insults for Elves in the German language ere the same as in English: Löwenzahnfresser (Dandelion Eater) and Baumkuschler (Tree Hugger). flower Kaltblütigen is odd, since flower is not a German word and Kaltblütig means cold blooded, not very suitable for someone you consider weak. Maybe "Bohnenstange" (Beanstalk) might fit, it is used for tall but very skinny types. Or "Gänseblümchen" (Daisy), it is double insulting because literally translated it means Little goose flower and goose is an insult mainly used for women.

As for your concept: I didn't like the slaver part, it sounds too odd for me. Personally I'd change that part: Either have him hunted by corporate researchers or have him failing to get a job so he accepts some duboious work from some dubious guy in some dubious bar. Once on the criminal path it isn't that far to shadowrunning.

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« Reply #2 on: <06-10-12/1707:17> »
On the mechanical side you need another 5 points of flaws for your SURGE (+30/-15), I would also consider changing Dragon Skin for Satyr Legs since those could also represent digigrade raptor legs (they have the same benefits as the Raptor Legs cyberleg upgrade).

If this is a standard 400 point character your Close Combat skill group is 1 rank to high (maximum 4 for skill groups at chargen).

You have Blades 1 (Swords +2) in addition to the Close Combat group, that sounds both meaningless and illegal.

Pistols 3 and Archery 3 isn't much of a "ranged combat specialist" in my book. Also Archery instead of Automatics looks weird for someone with military background.

You have no skills to use your sniper rifle and rocket launcher.

Finally you are an unaugumented mundane meaning you would likely lose to pretty much any serious foe you encountered due to having lower stats and fewer init passes.

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« Reply #3 on: <06-10-12/2253:56> »
Question on Surge. When I read Surge 1-3, it states that they add 'required amounts' of surge qualities.....

Question arises, could someone take Surge 1, take the minimum requirement and take more beyond that? For example Surge 1 with Metagenetic Improvement and -15 in negative qualities? Are there hard-coded limits? Seems odd that Surge definition states 'minimums' to take, not max.

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« Reply #4 on: <06-10-12/2311:57> »
On the mechanical side you need another 5 points of flaws for your SURGE (+30/-15), I would also consider changing Dragon Skin for Satyr Legs since those could also represent digigrade raptor legs (they have the same benefits as the Raptor Legs cyberleg upgrade).

Somehow, when I read satyr legs, it didn't translate correctly since I imagined goat legs.  It doesn't limit my imagination, it just presented itself as a bad choice.  I was scratching my head over that one. :)  Perhaps I'll write a note on my copy of the PDF to remind myself that "Satyr Legs" can stand for Digitigrade feet and shins.  Thanks for pointing that out.

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If this is a standard 400 point character your Close Combat skill group is 1 rank to high (maximum 4 for skill groups at chargen).

To answer your question: I adapted the Weapons Specialist example out of SR4A for this character. I'll reduce it in time, thank you for bringing it up! :)

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You have Blades 1 (Swords +2) in addition to the Close Combat group, that sounds both meaningless and illegal.

Taking it out.

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Pistols 3 and Archery 3 isn't much of a "ranged combat specialist" in my book. Also Archery instead of Automatics looks weird for someone with military background.

I can verify that some of the U.S. Rangers still use Archery.   Just a second.

Okay, here is a discussion about modern use of Archery in the modern Armed Forces: http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/why-archery-still-exists-5481/

Wikipedia entry on the modern military use of the Crossbow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbow#Modern_military_and_paramilitary_use

Discussion on Modern Military Crossbows on an Archery discussion site: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=340170


You have no skills to use your sniper rifle and rocket launcher.

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Finally you are an unaugumented mundane meaning you would likely lose to pretty much any serious foe you encountered due to having lower stats and fewer init passes.

Interesting pointing that out, I figured a Dinosaur Halfblood would rely on his speed and reflexes.  I'll add some augmentations.  I'm not looking to turn this guy into a Bio-Borg, but i can try to turn him into some kind of a Blue Planet Super Soldier if that's what you wanted to see him be.  All the Bioware is there in SR4A:
Ortho-skin.
Synthacardium.
Synaptic augmentation. Etc. :)


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As for your concept: I didn't like the slaver part, it sounds too odd for me. Personally I'd change that part: Either have him hunted by corporate researchers or have him failing to get a job so he accepts some duboious work from some dubious guy in some dubious bar. Once on the criminal path it isn't that far to shadow running.

Noted.  But then you didn't read the first part of the story, which is exclusively on Sofurry.  The idea was to break up a Slavery ring.  He was part of the merchandise.

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flower blooded would be "Blumenblut" in German, but it has such a poetic sound that it wouldn't be a very good insult. The most common insults for Elves in the German language ere the same as in English: Löwenzahnfresser (Dandelion Eater) and Baumkuschler (Tree Hugger). flower Kaltblütigen is odd, since flower is not a German word and Kaltblütig means cold blooded, not very suitable for someone you consider weak. Maybe "Bohnenstange" (Beanstalk) might fit, it is used for tall but very skinny types. Or "Gänseblümchen" (Daisy), it is double insulting because literally translated it means Little goose flower and goose is an insult mainly used for women.

Awesome, and noted.  I was using the Black Speech elvish insult ("Lul Gijak-Ishi" (Lulgijak) -- "Flowers in the Blood" (interchangeably "Elf" or "Pussy") ) instead of an exclusive German one.  But your right, I should have done more research. :)

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« Reply #5 on: <06-11-12/0918:19> »
Alright, I added a military Bioware/Cyberware suite; altered his skill set, and did other things.  Including adding the Satyr Legs as a metagenic positive quality.

What do you guys think now?

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« Reply #6 on: <06-11-12/1014:51> »
Alright, I added a military Bioware/Cyberware suite; altered his skill set, and did other things.  Including adding the Satyr Legs as a metagenic positive quality.

What do you guys think now?

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« Reply #7 on: <06-11-12/1335:04> »
Alright, I added a military Bioware/Cyberware suite; altered his skill set, and did other things.  Including adding the Satyr Legs as a metagenic positive quality.

What do you guys think now?

You can't buy beta or delta grade implants in character creation.

Thank you, but he's not a player character.
:)

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« Reply #8 on: <06-11-12/1340:54> »
You actually have 55 points of positive metagenics not 30. Attribute Improvement is 20 points each not 5 and Satyr Legs is 10.

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« Reply #9 on: <06-11-12/1500:45> »
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Pistols 3 and Archery 3 isn't much of a "ranged combat specialist" in my book. Also Archery instead of Automatics looks weird for someone with military background.

I can verify that some of the U.S. Rangers still use Archery.   Just a second.

Okay, here is a discussion about modern use of Archery in the modern Armed Forces: http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/army-security-forces/why-archery-still-exists-5481/

Wikipedia entry on the modern military use of the Crossbow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbow#Modern_military_and_paramilitary_use

Discussion on Modern Military Crossbows on an Archery discussion site: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=340170
Yes, but I bet all those guys know how to use their military-issued rifles, too (I'll wager not a one of them has archery instead of automatics).  And a "3" in something really isn't terribly impressive, is the other part of Zephraim's post (in my opinion).  Being able to plink with a sidearm with an average skill level, and having an average ability in an archaic form of ranged combat does not a "ranged weapon specialist" make.  Giving yourself a bare minimum of competence with heavy weapons and sniper rifles doesn't really make up for that, either.

Listen, it's a character for fiction and not a game.  You're already throwing some rules (like availability) out the window -- why not just cowboy up and ignore the starting points, too?  You've obviously got a (really) detailed idea of how the character should work, so just make the numbers match it, if you feel like you need to have numbers at all.  Don't try to shoehorn your character into a starting PC package (especially not with the atrocious Weapon Specialist as a base), just give yourself numbers that match the character that's already in your head.
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« Reply #10 on: <06-11-12/1557:49> »
Drizzt was conceived at Level 18 :)

And whether "3" in a few counts as specialist is a matter of opinion. You could be awesome at 2 ranged skills (better in gameplay), or average at more than any one person should ever know (if it shoots, he can use it). Though I think the latter should be an adept power letting you "mimic" certain skills within a narrow subset.

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« Reply #11 on: <06-11-12/2231:17> »
You actually have 55 points of positive metagenics not 30. Attribute Improvement is 20 points each not 5 and Satyr Legs is 10.

There should not be an upper limit other than BP on Metagenic qualities. SURGE rating sets the minimum, anything over the minimums (which come with the SURGE rating for free, with the SURGE rating taking up the initial bp) additional metagenic qualities can be added and applied subtracting and adding to BP, RAW.

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« Reply #12 on: <06-11-12/2309:58> »
You actually have 55 points of positive metagenics not 30. Attribute Improvement is 20 points each not 5 and Satyr Legs is 10.

There should not be an upper limit other than BP on Metagenic qualities. SURGE rating sets the minimum, anything over the minimums (which come with the SURGE rating for free, with the SURGE rating taking up the initial bp) additional metagenic qualities can be added and applied subtracting and adding to BP, RAW.

The only upper limit would be the extra qualities above and beyond what the SURGE level purchased gives minus the SURGE level cost and any other positive qualities.  So, assuming no other positives and a 30 total from the quality, you'd be able to have a total of 50 metagenetics.

But since you said it's not a PC after my mention of the rules regarding beta and delta, that rule is probably null.
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« Reply #13 on: <06-11-12/2352:02> »
True.

I changed him around a little, dropping one of the Metagenics qualities (body) -- so that he has 35 points of metagenics positive qualities.  I'm looking for good martial arts that he would be taught.  And All4BigGuns, I posted the character to make sure my math was correct on a few things.  I'm sorry you misunderstood.

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« Reply #14 on: <06-11-12/2355:38> »
True.

I changed him around a little, dropping one of the Metagenics qualities (body) -- so that he has 35 points of metagenics positive qualities.  I'm looking for good martial arts that he would be taught.  And All4BigGuns, I posted the character to make sure my math was correct on a few things.  I'm sorry you misunderstood.

After seeing you do this, it kind of makes me want to start writing again using Predator for the stories. Unfortunately, I'm really prone to writer's block.  :'( :-\(Note- She's the only SR character I've had that I've really cared enough for to really write anything for.)
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