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« Reply #135 on: <10-24-12/1142:30> »
It won't burn a tank to dust.  It will eat all the O2 in the area and superheat the insides, cooking the crew.

You are thinking of thermite.
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« Reply #136 on: <10-24-12/1406:51> »
WP will ignite the on the surface of the tank, burning stuff on the outside, heating the shell and making the tank a larger glowing target on thermo with a column of smoke.

a nest of thermite CAN burn thru the shell and pour a decent stream of flaming hate into the interior, but that's not nearly guaranteed,

you got to remember that a tank generally has the best armor that could be put on at the time it was designed.
and many tanks have a lifespan of several crews. in that minor damage that would kill the crew just requires a bit of cleaning for the next crew.

and 95% of the ordnance on earth is designed to damage/disable/destroy a tank.
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« Reply #137 on: <10-24-12/1822:48> »
It won't burn a tank to dust.  It will eat all the O2 in the area and superheat the insides, cooking the crew.

You are thinking of thermite.

I'm talking about WP, per the game-system rules, not the RL uses of WP.

Assuming you get enough Net Hits to kill scatter, and using the Overlapping Explosion rules from War! (which make so much more sense for grenades than +1 DV per extra grenade), a Full Burst from an ITS Gonryu would do 8P + (9 * 8P / 2 = 32P) = 40P vs 1/2 Impact, with half that (20P vs I/2) "ticking" again every Combat Turn after that for 10 Combat Turns.

I'm pretty sure that's going to be enough to seriously destroy most tanks... especially the ones with huge Armor scores and relatively little Body.
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« Reply #138 on: <10-24-12/1939:05> »
It should be noted that there are various types of 'destroyed'. Under the game rules, a vehicle or drone melted to slag by thermite, blown to bits by explosives, roasted completely with WP, or shot up with bullets would still have the same damage condition, no matter what scenario played out.
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« Reply #139 on: <10-24-12/2359:51> »
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« Reply #140 on: <10-25-12/1812:27> »
"... and then I'll pour acid on the ashes, and wash whatever's left down the Seine!!"
"Hey, now, that's just going too far..."
There is no overkill. There's only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'
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« Reply #141 on: <10-25-12/2330:29> »
"... and then I'll pour acid on the ashes, and wash whatever's left down the Seine!!"
"Hey, now, that's just going too far..."
There is no overkill. There's only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'

Oh, sure, I get that.  But c'mon.  The Seine???
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« Reply #142 on: <10-26-12/1258:41> »
"... and then I'll pour acid on the ashes, and wash whatever's left down the Seine!!"
"Hey, now, that's just going too far..."
There is no overkill. There's only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'
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There is no overkill.

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« Reply #143 on: <10-26-12/1302:26> »
you would prefer the congo? the columbia? the snake? the nile? that little stream flowing thru memphis?
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« Reply #144 on: <10-26-12/1319:31> »
The septic tank, where I put all those other things I'd rather not have the authorities find.  :-X

Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.
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« Reply #145 on: <10-26-12/1734:39> »
Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.

Or actual bears. Or Awakened bears. Wolves, too. In fact, how about we add anything with eyes, a mouth, and a nose?

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« Reply #146 on: <10-26-12/1920:01> »
The septic tank, where I put all those other things I'd rather not have the authorities find.  :-X

Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.
Funny thing about that, regular mace is illegal in Canada, but bear mace is legal.  :P

Anyhow, there's an issue using it against a Bear Shaman, you have an enraged Bear Shaman who can't see now.  ;D
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« Reply #147 on: <10-26-12/1925:45> »
Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.

Or actual bears. Or Awakened bears. Wolves, too. In fact, how about we add anything with eyes, a mouth, and a nose?

Except Great Dragons.
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« Reply #148 on: <10-26-12/2112:32> »
Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.

Or actual bears. Or Awakened bears. Wolves, too. In fact, how about we add anything with eyes, a mouth, and a nose?

Except Great Dragons.

You need Dragon Mace for that. You know, the stuff that Dog 3.0, The CyberBounty NeoHunter uses on criminals? ;D

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« Reply #149 on: <10-27-12/1341:11> »
The septic tank, where I put all those other things I'd rather not have the authorities find.  :-X

Here's an anti magic tool that every wageslave could carry- Bear Mace. That bear shaman will have trouble doing anything other than summoning when his eyelids are swollen shut.
-Also good against bear shifters.
Funny thing about that, regular mace is illegal in Canada, but bear mace is legal.  :P

Anyhow, there's an issue using it against a Bear Shaman, you have an enraged Bear Shaman who can't see now.  ;D
Bear Shaman Mace- A honey blueberry scented inhalation vector narcotic/muscle relaxant. I kinda want to stat that up.