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« on: <10-19-12/0701:45> »
Unless this stuff uses methods unknown to me for gaining lots of mass really quickly, won't it be ridiculously light? Maybe as heavy as Styrofoam? Unless it's anchored solidly a little gust of wind could blow it away. I'm also wondering if they have a few different kinds of foam like this. I would imagine that they could design a similar foam that becomes like a marshmallow instead of hardening. That would have a few cool uses such as breaking a fall, or making a beanbag chair for your makeshift encampment.

It would also be cool to reprogram an MTC Gun Pit to project different shapes, such as a raft. Even more fun, equip your P4 drone with a specialized cutting tool and a healthy dose of this stuff, that is if your rigger has that sense of humor.

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« Reply #1 on: <10-19-12/1116:44> »
If its anything like high expansion insulating foam you can buy right now it will be pretty adhesive. Still light, but well stuck to whatever is underneath/beside/above it.

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« Reply #2 on: <10-19-12/1440:00> »
Well, it's description in Arsenal does involve the word "porous", so people wouldn't suffocate to death while they were stuck in it...

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« Reply #3 on: <10-20-12/0152:59> »
Porous does not mean you can breathe through it, you can describe Lava Rock or an Aero chocolate bar as porous, it doesn't mean you can breathe through either

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« Reply #4 on: <10-20-12/0202:45> »
Porous does not mean you can breathe through it, you can describe Lava Rock or an Aero chocolate bar as porous, it doesn't mean you can breathe through either

However, this does specifically say you can breath through it.

So one would assume it ends up being a very open-celled foam that provides plenty of air-flow, while at the same time being sturdy enough to resist breaking free.
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« Reply #5 on: <10-20-12/0629:42> »
Makes sense, considering it's ability to expand.

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« Reply #6 on: <10-20-12/0639:41> »
Well, it's description in Arsenal does involve the word "porous", so people wouldn't suffocate to death while they were stuck in it...
Regardless I would love to watch a docwagon team try and get some goons out of a car full of barrier foam.

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« Reply #7 on: <10-20-12/0659:12> »
Well, it's description in Arsenal does involve the word "porous", so people wouldn't suffocate to death while they were stuck in it...
Regardless I would love to watch a docwagon team try and get some goons out of a car full of barrier foam.

Actually, there's a quick-dissolve solvent readily available, IIRC.

I imagine that, being medics, Docwagon would probably load their guys up with Barrier Foam, SnS ammo, etc... stuff that's decidedly non-lethal, but great for neutralizing the enemy long enough to grab and dash. That means they'd have the solvent handy, just in case of "accidents".
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« Reply #8 on: <10-20-12/0829:38> »
Well, it's description in Arsenal does involve the word "porous", so people wouldn't suffocate to death while they were stuck in it...
Regardless I would love to watch a docwagon team try and get some goons out of a car full of barrier foam.

Actually, there's a quick-dissolve solvent readily available, IIRC.

I imagine that, being medics, Docwagon would probably load their guys up with Barrier Foam, SnS ammo, etc... stuff that's decidedly non-lethal, but great for neutralizing the enemy long enough to grab and dash. That means they'd have the solvent handy, just in case of "accidents".
That makes sense. Better yet, watch as the Docwagon team laughs at the victims before removing them from the vehicle.

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« Reply #9 on: <10-20-12/1330:36> »
Well, it's description in Arsenal does involve the word "porous", so people wouldn't suffocate to death while they were stuck in it...
Regardless I would love to watch a docwagon team try and get some goons out of a car full of barrier foam.

Actually, there's a quick-dissolve solvent readily available, IIRC.

I imagine that, being medics, Docwagon would probably load their guys up with Barrier Foam, SnS ammo, etc... stuff that's decidedly non-lethal, but great for neutralizing the enemy long enough to grab and dash. That means they'd have the solvent handy, just in case of "accidents".

I can see where DocWagon would make use of barrier foam, not sure about how much they would invest in being non-lethal except in a limited number of circumstances

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« Reply #10 on: <10-20-12/1451:19> »
Well, they never know if the people they're shooting at are ALSO DocWagon Clients as well.

Be really bad if they go in after a Regular Member and end up shooting a Gold Member and having to switch over to him for extraction after they shot him themselves.
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« Reply #11 on: <10-20-12/1504:31> »
Well, they never know if the people they're shooting at are ALSO DocWagon Clients as well.

Be really bad if they go in after a Regular Member and end up shooting a Gold Member and having to switch over to him for extraction after they shot him themselves.

I just imagned a pair of runner teams, both with DocWagon contracts, shooting each other to smitherines and both EMT teams just off to the side...

"Hey, should we, you know, go in there and save em?"
"...Kid, in a situation like this, you should just sit back and relax, cause someone up there clearly got one sick sense of humor." ;D

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« Reply #12 on: <10-20-12/1637:06> »
Well, they never know if the people they're shooting at are ALSO DocWagon Clients as well.

Be really bad if they go in after a Regular Member and end up shooting a Gold Member and having to switch over to him for extraction after they shot him themselves.

Safe Target System keyed to DocWagon client RFIDs/monitors would handle that, DocWagon AR systems might even pick up subscriber status. You certainly would want non lethal rounds if you're diving into a situation where there's a high probability of stray bullets finding homes though.
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« Reply #13 on: <10-20-12/1657:54> »

I just imagned a pair of runner teams, both with DocWagon contracts, shooting each other to smitherines and both EMT teams just off to the side...

"Hey, should we, you know, go in there and save em?"
"...Kid, in a situation like this, you should just sit back and relax, cause someone up there clearly got one sick sense of humor." ;D

That could get bad if one team had DocWagon and the other had CrashCart or something... EMTs start shooting at each other as well....

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« Reply #14 on: <10-20-12/1703:06> »
Well, they never know if the people they're shooting at are ALSO DocWagon Clients as well.

Be really bad if they go in after a Regular Member and end up shooting a Gold Member and having to switch over to him for extraction after they shot him themselves.

Safe Target System keyed to DocWagon client RFIDs/monitors would handle that, DocWagon AR systems might even pick up subscriber status. You certainly would want non lethal rounds if you're diving into a situation where there's a high probability of stray bullets finding homes though.

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