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« Reply #30 on: <11-23-12/0307:20> »
Okay, here's a killer (pun intended) setup that takes shameless advantage of the No Recoil On Drones rule.

1) Get an AutoAssault 16

2) Install the following:
-----Chameleon Coating
-----High Velocity
-----Improved Range Finder
-----SmartGun System.

3) Get a Lockheed Arachne.

4) Install the following:
-----Ammo Bins
-----Chameleon Coating
-----Covert Ops 4
-----Maneuver 4
-----Pilot 6

5) Mount the AutoAssault 16 on the Arachne.

6) Repeat until your van is full.
:o OMG :o
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« Reply #31 on: <11-23-12/0359:40> »
Okay, here's a killer (pun intended) setup that takes shameless advantage of the No Recoil On Drones rule.

1) Get an AutoAssault 16

2) Install the following:
-----Chameleon Coating
-----High Velocity
-----Improved Range Finder
-----SmartGun System.

3) Get a Lockheed Arachne.

4) Install the following:
-----Ammo Bins
-----Chameleon Coating
-----Covert Ops 4
-----Maneuver 4
-----Pilot 6

5) Mount the AutoAssault 16 on the Arachne.

6) Repeat until your van is full.
:o OMG :o
And this is why I say we need a GATLING shotgun. Because 'too much' to lesser men is 'not enough' to shadowrunners.
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« Reply #32 on: <11-23-12/0423:22> »
Arachne being a drone, I assume?

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« Reply #33 on: <11-23-12/0428:47> »
Yes a walking sentry drone.
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« Reply #34 on: <11-23-12/0433:11> »
I want that drone setup *drools*
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« Reply #35 on: <11-23-12/0440:39> »
I want that drone setup *drools*

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« Reply #36 on: <11-23-12/0447:57> »
Okay, here's a killer (pun intended) setup that takes shameless advantage of the No Recoil On Drones rule.
2) Install the following:
-----Chameleon Coating
-----High Velocity
-----Improved Range Finder
-----SmartGun System.

Shameless is good  ;D

5b) Load it with armor piercing flechette.

7) Get a bigger van.

Does it need High Velocity though? It is rather costly even on an expensive build like that.

And the availability is 26F...

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« Reply #37 on: <11-23-12/0454:34> »
Okay, here's a killer (pun intended) setup that takes shameless advantage of the No Recoil On Drones rule.
2) Install the following:
-----Chameleon Coating
-----High Velocity
-----Improved Range Finder
-----SmartGun System.

Shameless is good  ;D

5b) Load it with armor piercing flechette.

7) Get a bigger van.

Does it need High Velocity though? It is rather costly even on an expensive build like that.

And the availability is 26F...

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Not really.

All it does is let you fling more lead down range... Long/Long, as opposed to Long/Short, which lets you take better advantage of the Wide Chock multi-target overlap.
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« Reply #38 on: <11-23-12/1058:16> »
High Velocity is restricted to SMGs and Assault Rifles (pg. 26, Arsenal).  :'(
I always hated that I couldn't make an actual "super-machinegun" using the rules written to make firearms called "super machineguns".

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« Reply #39 on: <11-23-12/1548:35> »
High Velocity is restricted to SMGs and Assault Rifles (pg. 26, Arsenal).  :'(
I always hated that I couldn't make an actual "super-machinegun" using the rules written to make firearms called "super machineguns".

Huh... glitch in Hero Lab, then, since it let me throw it on.

Still, minimal impact in performance, and drops the total to 37,500¥ per drone. :D
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« Reply #40 on: <11-30-12/0233:10> »
Just throwing this out there, I brought up the fact that RL shotties actually can have suppressors to my gm and he allowed it.
He normally house rules that if it exists IRL then you can do it...to an extent.

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« Reply #41 on: <11-30-12/0551:34> »
High Velocity is restricted to SMGs and Assault Rifles (pg. 26, Arsenal).  :'(
I always hated that I couldn't make an actual "super-machinegun" using the rules written to make firearms called "super machineguns".

Huh... glitch in Hero Lab, then, since it let me throw it on.
Not necessarily, the modding section of the book only lists "Full Auto-Capable Weapons Only" as a limitation.
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« Reply #42 on: <12-01-12/0303:07> »
Just throwing this out there, I brought up the fact that RL shotties actually can have suppressors to my gm and he allowed it.
He normally house rules that if it exists IRL then you can do it...to an extent.

Very reasonable approach, since I've caught many examples of the writers' ignorance on the subjects they're writing about.

For example, as I've said before regarding the explosives rules and what happens when you detonate 1kg of ANFO... does this look like "DV 4" to you?

Not necessarily, the modding section of the book only lists "Full Auto-Capable Weapons Only" as a limitation.

Well, that explains it, then. Hero Lab really is much better at parsing the rules than most people seem to be.
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« Reply #43 on: <12-01-12/0329:24> »
I recently found the Shiawase Arms Riot Guard, inhabiting Gun Haven 2. I have no idea why but when I saw it I thought 'That beautiful design... I must have one!' It costs an arm and a leg and doesn't come with electronics, but it is burst fire capable and uses clips instead of an internal magazine (As defined by game mechanics. Ironically the flavor text says it's magazine fed... but let's not derail the thread), both of which are nice features. Unfortunately adding an underbarrel weight (auto adjusting) and a personalized grip means that I'd need to overmod to add an additional clip (so I can switch between shock-lock and flachette rounds) but oh well.

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« Reply #44 on: <12-01-12/1412:01> »
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Not necessarily, the modding section of the book only lists "Full Auto-Capable Weapons Only" as a limitation.
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Well, that explains it, then. Hero Lab really is much better at parsing the rules than most people seem to be.
Again, the limitation is on page 26 of Arsenal, not the modding section. Coincidentally the modding sections states:
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High Velocity (Full Auto-Capable Weapons Only): This turns the firearm into a high velocity weapon (see High-Velocity Weapons, p. 26)
Pg. 26, that the modding section refers to, includes this bit:
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Only submachine guns and assault rifles can be constructed as high-velocity weapons.

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Just throwing this out there, I brought up the fact that RL shotties actually can have suppressors to my gm and he allowed it.
He normally house rules that if it exists IRL then you can do it...to an extent.
Is there a rule that bans Shotguns from having suppressors normally?