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« Reply #15 on: <12-08-12/2131:49> »
*shudders* That's just ridiculous in my opinion, but then again I was raised that only women and homosexuals wear earrings and that other piercings are sick, disgusting and wrong.

How sad it must be to have been raised like that.


Back on topic, you could have a false cyber case from Spy Games (I forget the exact item name), you could put your foci under that for a little extra shielding.

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« Reply #16 on: <12-08-12/2133:43> »
How sad it must be to have been raised like that.

Meh, chalk it up to a result of being raised at the tail-end of the Bible Belt.
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« Reply #17 on: <12-08-12/2142:35> »
Ah yes, the good ol' Bible Belt. Yeah, that kind of thinking happens a lot around here.
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« Reply #18 on: <12-09-12/0209:35> »
There's a mana spell in Digital Grimoire which directly attacks and deactivates a focus on the physical or astral.

That said, it's perfectly viable to attack the focus and destroy it in meat space.   You make some nice wooden trinket as part of your druid's kit... don't surprise if it burns in the fireball.

But from the astral... it's actually very much undefined.   But I'd go with the FAQ that the best you can do from the astral is deactivate things (you used to be able to break them... which meant any kind of focus for an adept was a waste unless they also had a lot of astral combat and astral perception power).  A lot of that is based on they're very high karma investments and it's a little too easy if a pack of astral spirits can suddenly surround your physical form on the astral and pummel your defenseless focus into useless scrap using astral combat.



Some of the most powerful characters in the game are people who use foci to augment their magical abiltiies... there is nothing wrong with removing a crutch if it's being abused.   That said, you're far better off stealing them rather than destroying them unless it's a desperation act.   Foci are worth big money even when resold for a fraction of the original price.

But if the mage brings wreck guns to a fight... he should not be surprised if his own tools are attacked and removed from the board as well.   Turnabout is fair play, is one of the biggest rules I see used in groups.   Do not (ab)use rules or loopholes unless you wish to be subjected to the same.


I really don't see why you bother posting in a rules sub forum at all All4BigGuns.   You have nothing to comment on the rules as published.  You simply comment repeatedly that the rules should be ignored and your whims honored even when the rules say otherwise.  Then engage in pointless namecalling of people who disagree with you by calling faceless GM's dicks and the like.
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« Reply #19 on: <12-09-12/0217:55> »
There's a mana spell in Digital Grimoire which directly attacks and deactivates a focus on the physical or astral.

That said, it's perfectly viable to attack the focus and destroy it in meat space.   You make some nice wooden trinket as part of your druid's kit... don't surprise if it burns in the fireball.

But from the astral... it's actually very much undefined.   But I'd go with the FAQ that the best you can do from the astral is deactivate things (you used to be able to break them... which meant any kind of focus for an adept was a waste unless they also had a lot of astral combat and astral perception power).  A lot of that is based on they're very high karma investments and it's a little too easy if a pack of astral spirits can suddenly surround your physical form on the astral and pummel your defenseless focus into useless scrap using astral combat.



Some of the most powerful characters in the game are people who use foci to augment their magical abiltiies... there is nothing wrong with removing a crutch if it's being abused.   That said, you're far better off stealing them rather than destroying them unless it's a desperation act.   Foci are worth big money even when resold for a fraction of the original price.

But if the mage brings wreck guns to a fight... he should not be surprised if his own tools are attacked and removed from the board as well.   Turnabout is fair play, is one of the biggest rules I see used in groups.   Do not (ab)use rules or loopholes unless you wish to be subjected to the same.


I really don't see why you bother posting in a rules sub forum at all All4BigGuns.   You have nothing to comment on the rules as published.  You simply comment repeatedly that the rules should be ignored and your whims honored even when the rules say otherwise.  Then engage in pointless namecalling of people who disagree with you by calling faceless GM's dicks and the like.

In case you haven't noticed I merely stated that that's an awful lot of generation points to just arbitrarily strip from a character. Now, granted, the GM who does that is being an antagonistic arse, but that's beside the point. The points were allocated to that, and thus it should still remain sacrosanct unless the GM provides FOR FREE something of equivalent utility and value SOON after.
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« Reply #20 on: <12-09-12/0736:54> »
There's a difference between deactivating the focus and destroying it, naturally. One is a nice sucker punch to remind players that their toys can be used against them. Deliberately destroying it is on a whole different level.
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