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The "Undetectable" Gun... or how to sneak a gun on a Balistic flight...

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« Reply #90 on: <01-30-13/0803:31> »
And then hand off the gun that shoots possessed baby ghoul gnomes hidden within a bag of peanuts? It's the perfect crime.
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« Reply #91 on: <01-30-13/1521:11> »
Ah, thanks, I can't believe I missed that. The last 5 years of research and 2 missing diplomats didn't go to waste.
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« Reply #92 on: <01-31-13/1856:03> »
I'd have someone with some serious social skills.

Con/Seduce your way through security, or better yet, a pilot to get through security.

Not easy. I go through a lot of airports and those guys love to unquestioningly follow the bureaucracy. Best to have your way in figured out before you get there. Pilot is a great idea, but flight attendant is even better, I think.

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« Reply #93 on: <02-01-13/0928:42> »
I'd have someone with some serious social skills.

Con/Seduce your way through security, or better yet, a pilot to get through security.

Not easy. I go through a lot of airports and those guys love to unquestioningly follow the bureaucracy. Best to have your way in figured out before you get there. Pilot is a great idea, but flight attendant is even better, I think.

pilots and flight attendants have to go through security just like we do, except they use a fast track lane. they get checked following a few attendants getting involved in smuggling operations.

even if you do get a gun onto the flight, you've still gotta wait the couple of hours in the 'plane with 20-120 witness to murder as you cant really bail out without decompressing and murdering the rest of the passengers at sub-orbital altitude. you'd also need some kind of space/pressure suit and a bloody good parachute to bail out.
if you dont bail, but stay on the plane till it lands, you've then got to deal with a small army of police waiting for you on the tarmac.

you cant really hijack the plane without getting shot down by military jets (ATC would pick you up as deviating from flight plans). even if you could somehow avoid them, where would you land it? and what would you do with all the other passengers?

which ever way you cut it, its just a bad idea. if you desperately need to kill someone who's going to be on a sub-orbital and you must use a gun to do it, then shoot him either on the way to the airport, or while he's distracted waiting for check-in/security. at least you can arrange a getaway vehicle and stand a bit better chance of getting away with it.
if it has to happen on the plane, get your unarmed combat adept to do it, or use poison or a poison gas or something and plan a pretty mighty get-away
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« Reply #94 on: <02-01-13/0938:20> »
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that you can whack someone on a sub-orbital, decompress the thing (taking care of witnesses), and get away scot-free ... just gotta figure exactly how and where is the point to do it, and how to get out safely.
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« Reply #95 on: <02-01-13/1531:32> »
Why not just sneak on to the airfield as mechanics, and sabotage the plane, all you need to do is loose some of the heat absorbing panels, or fix some of the elevators so they can't go into landing position, and the whole thing tumbles out of control and explodes. No witnesses, it looks like an accident, and you didn't have to sneak anything illegal onto the airfield except yourselves. To do that, you have a good hacker friend who knows how to manipulate data bases by proxy, IE, have him log in using the shift supervisor's comcode.
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« Reply #96 on: <02-01-13/1712:31> »
I'd go in with a borrowed SIN as an attendant, then use a poison that makes it look like a heart attack or something of that sort. Use a face case to make yourself look different, so that you don't get made and can't be tracked down later. This is for a commercial flght. Private flights would be much easier. My preference is to not kill indescriminately. If you don't care about that sort of thing you could find 20 ways to just blow the plane up.

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« Reply #97 on: <02-01-13/1740:57> »
Yeah, if you wanted to simply kill everyone on the plane just use the old standby of Mage+Barrier+Telescope.
Of course, if I were going to try assassinating someone on a plane with minimal civilian casualties then I'd consider using that personality reprogramming software and basically turning someone into a disposable assassin, much like they do with hypnosis in some movies. a personafix could also work for that.
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« Reply #98 on: <02-01-13/1826:20> »
Oh sorry, I thought we were still running with the idea of Insect Spirit, Gnome, Ghoul, Babies. I forgot that people cared about civilians over covering their own tracks.

Honestly, if you're going to poison him, do it before or after the flight, I mean, if you did it in the air there wouldn't be a chance of a medic. But then you have you and 40 other people to choose from as the culprit. On the ground it could be any one of thousands of people going in and out of the airport.
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« Reply #99 on: <02-03-13/0105:36> »
If you are gonna poison someone, why do it on a plane? Smuggling in poison is an unnecessary risk. Just do it elsewhere.

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« Reply #100 on: <02-05-13/1609:20> »
If you are gonna poison someone, why do it on a plane? Smuggling in poison is an unnecessary risk. Just do it elsewhere.

Because Mr. Johnson said so.

Are you going to argue with Mr. Johnson over when and where he wants this guy dead?

How's that soy kibble taste?

I mean, sure - demand a payday that scales with the risks...but always remember, if it were going to be easy, WTF does he need to hire YOU for?

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« Reply #101 on: <02-05-13/2021:38> »
I still like the idea of crashing the whole plane. Either that or replace the crew and explain to them "Quiet Time".
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« Reply #102 on: <02-08-13/1551:00> »
Many poisons often appear as other causes of death until extensive tests are done.

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« Reply #103 on: <02-08-13/1825:45> »
One word: Carcerands.

Slip it in his drink before he ever gets on the plane. Have the timer set to go off while the plane is in flight. Make it something suitably nasty and quick-working, so that the authorities go over everyone on the plane first, before considering carcerands. By the time they do, you're long gone.

Personally, for killing someone on a suborbital, I'd go with carcerands filled with shade, especially if they're mundane. Even if they somehow manage to not die in the mana void, they're going to have a helluva time finding their body before the duration wears off.
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« Reply #104 on: <02-09-13/0327:26> »
If you are gonna poison someone, why do it on a plane? Smuggling in poison is an unnecessary risk. Just do it elsewhere.

Because Mr. Johnson said so.

Are you going to argue with Mr. Johnson over when and where he wants this guy dead?

How's that soy kibble taste?

I mean, sure - demand a payday that scales with the risks...but always remember, if it were going to be easy, WTF does he need to hire YOU for?

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Well we could use a blowgun and pass it off as a wasp sting, should work so long as there aren't any belgians on the plane.
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