[Reiper]

My 4th Ed books are on their way, and I understand most of what I'm seeing on Chummer anyways though. I do have one question to ask.

What is the advantage of Electronic Firing?

[RHat]

1 point of recoil compensation and a penalty to perception tests to hear the shot.

[CanRay]

Also, the firearm is sure to use caseless ammo.  No need to police brass! 

[Novocrane]

Firearms
Firearms are primarily slug-throwers. Many weapons offer two versions, for standard loads or for caseless ammunition, though the latter is far more common in the 2070s. A weapon can fire either type of ammunition, but not both interchangeably.

Technically, you could do that out of core.

[Aryeonos]

Though if you try using certain weapons in sustained fire and you claim it's caseless a clever GM might say that your gun starts cooking off its magazine, on a glitch of course.

[Mantis]

That's a terrible thing to suggest. I'll have to remember that for future use.

[Mäx]

Though if you try using certain weapons in sustained fire and you claim it's caseless a clever GM might say that your gun starts cooking off its magazine, on a glitch of course.

Making up drawbacks for a tried and true 100 year old technology, isn't exactly being clever.

[Aryeonos]

No really, that's the drawback to caseless ammo, cased ammo allows the weapon to discharge allot of its waste heat through the brass, and even some through the open chamber. That's why most automatic weapons are open bolt, to allow some heat to escape while the gun isn't firing.

[CanRay]

It's less of an issue today, but rounds cooking off aren't unknown either.  "Chainfire" was a major problem for old revolvers, and was the worst, but I doubt that caseless rounds would cook off any more than cased rounds would.

That said, a white-hot barrel and breech after you've chewed through two belts of ammo without stopping would cook off anything! 

[Mirikon]

Indeed, under normal operating conditions, ammo cooking off isn't an issue. Note that firing a gun until the barrel glows does not count as normal operating conditions. Though as an example of 'bad shit happens' when you critical glitch, there are much worse things that could happen to you.

[Aryeonos]

Like I said, a glitch, you just emptied your magazine and glitched reloading or the next time you fire, Clever GM says  the last 100 rounds you just emptied made the chamber hot and on your bad glitch it starts to cook off your ammo, whoops you missed that heads up on your HUD! Make an agility + Armorer if you have it test to see if you can pull the mag out before it empties!

Not, You just emptied 300 rounds from your caseless Fatal Light, and I'm tired of seeing you shoot, your next magazine cooks off.

[Mirikon]

On a regular glitch, it would be more like "Oh look, the clip wasn't put in right, and falls out". On a critical glitch, however...

[All4BigGuns]

Every time I see someone on here talking about what they would do with glitches or critical glitches I get the image of a cheesy cartoon villain rubbing his hands together and cackling maniacally...

[Mirikon]

Every time I see someone on here talking about what they would do with glitches or critical glitches I get the image of a cheesy cartoon villain rubbing his hands together and cackling maniacally...

Oddly enough, that's EXACTLY what I do every time a player mentions wanting to cast Wish in D&D (even when I'm not the DM). Ah, Wish, one of those spells that is there to literally give players enough rope to hang themselves, and yet they just can't resist.

[All4BigGuns]

Every time I see someone on here talking about what they would do with glitches or critical glitches I get the image of a cheesy cartoon villain rubbing his hands together and cackling maniacally...

Oddly enough, that's EXACTLY what I do every time a player mentions wanting to cast Wish in D&D (even when I'm not the DM). Ah, Wish, one of those spells that is there to literally give players enough rope to hang themselves, and yet they just can't resist.

Unless you get a player who is a lawyer, and then you'll find almost no loopholes to exploit in the Wish.