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Title: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Senko on <12-10-15/0710:15>
Random question that just occurred to me but Immortal Elves are meant to have been alive all through human history so I'm wondering were they always Elves as in pointy ears, etc or did they do a reverse of the transformation process and look human for all that low magic time?
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: IronRoy on <12-10-15/0807:58>
As far as i have ever read, the surviving IEs stayed Pointy. They just learned to keep a low profile and disguise their abnormalities. Much of what we know came from the old ED supplements.  Including the Unpublished Dragons book. I always felt that the original authors had intended to leave the whole thing hazy.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Senko on <12-10-15/1021:42>
Interesting and its not like there's a shortage of ways to hide it magically and otherwise but definately interesting they stayed pointy when things like shapechangers are called out as being unable to assume human form in a low magic zone.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Mirikon on <12-10-15/1214:48>
First things first, remember that the 'Fifth World' was a LOW magic zone, not a NO magic zone. Basically, picture a Mana Ebb at -10 or so, practically (but not quite) to the point of being a Void. For the vast majority of creatures on the planet, this is functionally a magicless era, but for a very powerful mages and spirits, it is still there. They're weakened, of course, but still able to do some things. Hence why dragons (which are dual-natured) merely went to sleep instead of dying when the mana dropped. So yes, the immortal elves were always elves. However, a minor glamour to hide their ears would still be possible for them, and there are all those mundane means of disguising themselves.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Sendaz on <12-10-15/1248:37>
Any episode of Original Star Trek where Spock has to blend in can give you an idea on how to do it on the mojolow. :P

Though if you read 'Worlds without End' page 20 has Aina mention how her elven features were muted during the low magic time, even her eyes had changed colour during this time.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: SpellBinder on <12-10-15/1252:49>
Any episode of Original Star Trek where Spock has to blend in can give you an idea on how to do it on the mojolow. :P
I can easily imagine Harlequin starting the hippy fashion trend of headbands.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: psycho835 on <12-11-15/1502:24>
Any episode of Original Star Trek where Spock has to blend in can give you an idea on how to do it on the mojolow. :P
I can easily imagine Harlequin starting the hippy fashion trend of headbands.
Oh, ghost, now that you've mentioned Harley starting a trend, I can't help but ponder, how much crazy stupid FUN stuff he must have been responsible for. Seriously, can you imagine what kind of drek he must have gotten up to when bored while still being able to use magic in 5th world?
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Sendaz on <12-11-15/1528:07>
Any episode of Original Star Trek where Spock has to blend in can give you an idea on how to do it on the mojolow. :P
I can easily imagine Harlequin starting the hippy fashion trend of headbands.
Oh, ghost, now that you've mentioned Harley starting a trend, I can't help but ponder, how much crazy stupid FUN stuff he must have been responsible for. Seriously, can you imagine what kind of drek he must have gotten up to when bored while still being able to use magic in 5th world?
some say he backed a british gaming company back in the 1970s and had a whole line of acrobatic mystic warrior elves in the game named after him. :P

The other IE were not so amused.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: psycho835 on <12-11-15/1540:15>
The other IE were not so amused.
For him, that's just another reason to do it.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: cantrip on <12-15-15/1049:20>
some say he backed a british gaming company back in the 1970s and had a whole line of acrobatic mystic warrior elves in the game named after him. :P

I knew it! ;)
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Shaidar on <07-02-16/1713:01>
Harley was able to craft a weapon focus in the 1800's, a rapier IIRC.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Tym Jalynsfein on <07-02-16/1930:42>
Harley was able to craft a weapon focus in the 1800's, a rapier IIRC.

A very powerful one, in fact. :)
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: RowanTheFox on <07-11-16/1325:49>
Any episode of Original Star Trek where Spock has to blend in can give you an idea on how to do it on the mojolow. :P
I can easily imagine Harlequin starting the hippy fashion trend of headbands.
Oh, ghost, now that you've mentioned Harley starting a trend, I can't help but ponder, how much crazy stupid FUN stuff he must have been responsible for. Seriously, can you imagine what kind of drek he must have gotten up to when bored while still being able to use magic in 5th world?

What does Harley do when he's bored? Whatever the frag he wants! Though, I've always wondered if he modeled his face paint after renaissance jesters, or if they modeled theirs after him? I've always imagined him as one HECK of a great violinist or pianist. Don't know why...
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: MijRai on <07-11-16/1501:38>
My understanding is they copied him.

Also, I love how every iteration of Harlequin I've seen so far has 'Destroy Pants' as a spell.  So much Karma to spend on spells he literally got one to destroy people's clothes.  Amazing. 
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: RowanTheFox on <07-11-16/1515:05>
My understanding is they copied him.

Also, I love how every iteration of Harlequin I've seen so far has 'Destroy Pants' as a spell.  So much Karma to spend on spells he literally got one to destroy people's clothes.  Amazing.

It's probably a good thing that spell isn't available to PCs as far as I know. I'd abuse the heck out of that.  ;D My dad introduced me to SR when I was 14, and I've had a crush on Harlequin ever since. *whistles nonchalantly while also actively avoiding eye contact*
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: MijRai on <07-11-16/1526:14>
Why would it not be available to PCs?  It's the Destroy (Insert Object Type Here) spell.  Pants a legitimate option, even if it is very niche. 
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: RowanTheFox on <07-11-16/1645:39>
Why would it not be available to PCs?  It's the Destroy (Insert Object Type Here) spell.  Pants a legitimate option, even if it is very niche.

Oh, duh. I knew that. I really need to start playing again. I've lost a few steps.
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: Herr Brackhaus on <07-11-16/1649:20>
Worst use of 5 karma to learn a spell ever, or best use. You decide :)
Title: Re: Were Immortal Elves always Elves?
Post by: RowanTheFox on <07-11-16/1733:58>
Worst use of 5 karma to learn a spell ever, or best use. You decide :)

I guess it would depend on what kind of personality your character has, how you play them, and what kind of magic you're focusing on. A healer type probably wouldn't see much use for it, while an illusionist/trickster type who likes to play mind games would probably make great use of it. Given the right type of character with enough karma, and the right campaign setting, it could be a LOT of fun. *cackles gleefully*

Oh, now you've gone and given me ideas! What'd ya do that for?