Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: JimJungle on <04-29-11/0119:00>
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Can the stats for the Hardliner Gloves be used for other fist type weapons? Like brass knuckles for instance? Can you just switch out the description and keep the stats? Because, honestly, the Hardliner Gloves are pretty lame. And whats the word on Power Fists? Or Chain Fists, ala Warhammer 40k. I know you could get cyberware, but not everyone wants to lose essence.
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Can the stats for the Hardliner Gloves be used for other fist type weapons? Like brass knuckles for instance?
Shure, why not ?
HokaHey
Medicineman
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Thanks Medidance Man, i just assumed that i could, but it doesnt say so anywhere.
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Because, honestly, the Hardliner Gloves are pretty lame.
Hardliner gloves have the advantage of being fairly subtle. They look like heavy gloves, perfect for a lot of circumstances, and probably wouldn't interfere with the operation of a firearm, unlike Brass Knuckles, which you'd have to swap out in order to handle anything else.
Up close, they'd be obviously weird looking and attract attention, but at any kind of distance, they'd just be heavy gloves that could be worn for a lot of reasons in a lot of different places.
Also, if you buy the right type, they also keep your hands warm. Always a good thing. But, then again, I'm Canadian, so that WOULD come to mind for me. :P
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I don't see any issue whatsoever with the same stats being used for brass knuckles (in fact, I've been using Hardliner stats for knuckle-dusters since Cannon Companion came out).
Power fists and chainfists, though? Those are a bit beyond the tech-level of Shadowrun, at this point. Remember a power fist is wrapped in a disruptor field and is powered by strength-enhancing servomotors and is still a pretty fantastic, powerful, and rare piece of wargear in the 41st Millennium...and that chainfists are everything power fists are, traditionally, but better. I'd say both of them are well beyond the reach of 2073.
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Maybe a "Vibroknife Fist "
or a "Victorinox Memory Knife Glove"
with various Dances
Medicineman
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Or or or...gloves that shoot bees out of them! :P
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the power fist from the fallout games doesn't seem too out of reach. just a basic set of pneumatics with a sensor attached. you could even begin modifying it to suit what your fighting. the design itself is practically begging for a taser upgrade, much less memory metals that become spikes or a blade.
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Or or or...gloves that shoot bees out of them! :P
You mean those Bees from the Renraku Arcology Shutdown.... :o
With a terrifying Dance
Medicineman
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the power fist from the fallout games doesn't seem too out of reach. just a basic set of pneumatics with a sensor attached. you could even begin modifying it to suit what your fighting. the design itself is practically begging for a taser upgrade, much less memory metals that become spikes or a blade.
Just the thing to add to that suit of power armor that Attitude just released...
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Can a Hardliner Glove be applied to a Prehensile tail, or Thagomizer? How about a Shock Glove?
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Can a Hardliner Glove be applied to a Prehensile tail, or Thagomizer? How about a Shock Glove?
a Thagomizer probably not, that's already a weapon. But a Prehensile I would allow
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CP 2020's Chromebook series had a cyberarm option called Chainrip; a chainsaw extending out from the forearm. Even had a pull-cord started gas motor... y'know, for the extra intimidation factor. ;D
Also had another cyberarm bit that replaced the entire hand/forearm with what was essentially a lightning gun.
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the power fist from the fallout games doesn't seem too out of reach. just a basic set of pneumatics with a sensor attached. you could even begin modifying it to suit what your fighting. the design itself is practically begging for a taser upgrade
SHOCK BOXER!!!
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the power fist from the fallout games doesn't seem too out of reach. just a basic set of pneumatics with a sensor attached. you could even begin modifying it to suit what your fighting. the design itself is practically begging for a taser upgrade, much less memory metals that become spikes or a blade.
Oh, there are upgraded versions of the ol' Power Fist in New Vegas. Including one that seems to incorporate a pair of 20-gauge shotgun barrels.
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good sir i have been playing FANV and have yet to find one of those. O_O want has.
Also, adding power fists to my punching adept that rolls a riddiculous dice pool to punch would be perfect.
Power fist weapon focus, anyone?
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My group had better never find out about those...
The weapon I'm talking about in F: NV is called the "Ballistic Fist", and is very, very sick! Especially when you give one to everyone's favorite Lipstick Lesbian Companion!
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good sir i have been playing FANV and have yet to find one of those. O_O want has.
Also, adding power fists to my punching adept that rolls a riddiculous dice pool to punch would be perfect.
Power fist weapon focus, anyone?
You can get one from the Brotherhood of Steel for example, if you are in their favour . .
My group had better never find out about those...
The weapon I'm talking about in F: NV is called the "Ballistic Fist", and is very, very sick! Especially when you give one to everyone's favorite Lipstick Lesbian Companion!
Doesn't really work with the SR rules though i think . .
One Test to see if you connect, then one test for the punching damage and then one test for the shooting damage with the same net hits of the punching damage . .
But because of the no hit zones model, you always get full armor and because there are no coup the grace rules you don't get more damage . .
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Well, so much for punching people in the nose to shoot them in the face at the same time.
And it would have made the face shooting for money that much easier!
Guess I'll just have to grab their head and let the Cybergun Implant do it's thing...
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Well, you don't have to make a second attack test to see if the shot hits, you can simply use the successfull attack test from the punch and use the net hits from the punch to the shooting stuff test . . and i guess the target would not get a second dodge either . .
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the power fist from the fallout games doesn't seem too out of reach. just a basic set of pneumatics with a sensor attached. you could even begin modifying it to suit what your fighting. the design itself is practically begging for a taser upgrade, much less memory metals that become spikes or a blade.
A blade sounds like a forarm snap blade (SR4A p314) to me.
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My group had better never find out about those...
The weapon I'm talking about in F: NV is called the "Ballistic Fist", and is very, very sick! Especially when you give one to everyone's favorite Lipstick Lesbian Companion!
She gets worryingly happy when you tell her to use close combat weapons...
btw, a shotgun fist shows up in the anime mnemosyne (the series is seriously NSFW). Iirc, the use breaks the wrist of the user...
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Because, honestly, the Hardliner Gloves are pretty lame.
Hardliner gloves have the advantage of being fairly subtle. They look like heavy gloves, perfect for a lot of circumstances, and probably wouldn't interfere with the operation of a firearm, unlike Brass Knuckles, which you'd have to swap out in order to handle anything else.
Up close, they'd be obviously weird looking and attract attention, but at any kind of distance, they'd just be heavy gloves that could be worn for a lot of reasons in a lot of different places.
Also, if you buy the right type, they also keep your hands warm. Always a good thing. But, then again, I'm Canadian, so that WOULD come to mind for me. :P
I don't have the book right in front of me, but I don't recall the description listing them as bulky - if I recall, they were described as "fine leather gloves" with a hard insert along the lines of the carbon fiber knuckles that are pretty popular in tac gloves, these days.
I could be wrong...my Mage wears them with his suit, so I'll have to reconsider if they look like big bulky things. He may be a Troll, but he's a stylish Troll!
-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
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I've seen something similar to what they're described as in a store that sells security and emergency services equipment, and they're effectively gloves with thick knuckles.
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(http://www.brigadeqm.com/store/picsxl/WXG11_L_2.jpg)
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Yep, those are similar to what I've seen. And thinner leather.
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Those are Wiley-X tac gloves - you can probably tell which President's face is on a coin by touch with those bad boys on, and they're stippled for a better grip (ever try to grab someone when wearing smooth leather gloves?).
Good tactical gloves are tough, but don't impede dexterity. Really good tac gloves let you search a mope without taking them off, so they're good with tactile stuff.
Some are kevlar lined (not ballistic, but cut protection).
The carbon fiber knuckle "protectors" are gravy. ;D
-Jn-
City of Brass Expatriate
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Brass knuckles, fingerprint protection, and you can still shoot an Ares Predator. It's a good item to have, even if you don't have much in the way of CQB skills.
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Hmm, gotta see if i can find such gloves over here . .
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I've seen a decent set at my FLGS/Army Surplus Store if you don't have a security/emergency services store in your area.
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I've seen a decent set at my FLGS/Army Surplus Store if you don't have a security/emergency services store in your area.
I guess I'm being knit-picky, but I'm guessing you mean FLG (friendly local gunsmith)... Unless your gaming store is also a surplus store?!
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Maybe GS = Gun Store?
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I've seen a decent set at my FLGS/Army Surplus Store if you don't have a security/emergency services store in your area.
I guess I'm being knit-picky, but I'm guessing you mean FLG (friendly local gunsmith)... Unless your gaming store is also a surplus store?!
My Friendly Local Gaming Store is also an Army Surplus Store.
There used to be a massive army surplus store in Winnipeg, but it was driven into the ground after the new owners got a hold of it. The owner of my FLGS, which had just moved and had lots of extra space, started making connections with folks and soon was swimming in Army Surplus.
I got a nice 1950s-Era German Entrenching Tool. German Steel and Hard Wood, much better than those aluminum POSes they try to pass off as the same thing...
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Damn. Where is this place so I can go in, then come out less wealthy but better supplied? Local surplus stores here are little more than camping gear stores with camo patterns on the window.
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Hmm, i think i have an army surplus store around here somewhere . .
Gotta look if i can find it again and if they have such gloves . .
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Hmm, i think i have an army surplus store around here somewhere . .
Gotta look if i can find it again and if they have such gloves . .
I was just thinking the same thing...
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Damn. Where is this place so I can go in, then come out less wealthy but better supplied? Local surplus stores here are little more than camping gear stores with camo patterns on the window.
Exchange District in Winnipeg. PM me for more details.
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You could also go to the major distributors for current gear, as well, like Brigade Quartermasters (http://www.brigadeqm.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/store/index.tam), Blackhawk (http://www.blackhawk.com/) or U.S. Calvary (http://www.uscav.com/home.aspx?tabid=548) (among the many others).
Maybe GS = Gun Store?
FLG is the official blogging acronym for friendly local gunsmith
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My Friendly Local Gaming Store is also an Army Surplus Store.
So then GS stands for "Great Store!"
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It's a great store and a wonderful hangout for gamers and military veterans (And, of course, those currently serving!).
When the invasion of Afghanistan started, they were one of the major groups in the city trying to get Silly String to soldiers in the field. (Canadian Troops developed the technique of using Silly String to find Tripwires in unsecured, possibly trapped buildings.).
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A highly effective method, to be certain. A serving member of my MMO guild swears by it.
And, to note, would also be a useful tactic to find not only tripwires but monowire and invisible lurkers in shadowrun.
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"Invisible Mage Check!" *Sprays The Room With Silly String*
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Hey... I'd do it just walking into a room. It'd be just one of many fun uses for a modified arm slide mount. ::)