Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: Petal on <05-20-11/1310:52>
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I'm not talking armor, I'm talking slouchy tees and off the job jeans. Do you worry about that? What about a tux or evening gown for those upscale places?
During games I tend to doodle while I listen, it helps me focus, so I draw up outfits for my Elf. She's got so much clothes now you'd think she was a Face. ;D
So basically what I'm asking/discussing is off the job clothing. Does your PC run around to the grocery store in his armor? Or does he have something he likes to wear?
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While I don't write out every outfit (I assume a lot is included in lifestyle costs) I do have almost all of my characters own at least one pricey suit/gown, something from Mortimer of London or Zoé de Paris. And now with Attitude it's even easier to see these things.
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I do love Attitude. I have yet to read completely through it due to a lot of real life interruptions and bouts of inspiration to draw another outfit, rofl. I will admit to making my Adept on Second Life and dressing her up accordingly.
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Attitude has all the details you'd like for clothing if you're buying outfits and items suchlike.
But, yeah, most people just go with the Lifestyle. That Middle Lifestyle doesn't look so bad now, does it? You blend in a lot more places!
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GM'ing - I actually have an award for fashion. If the players attend a high class function and don't wear something befitting, they suffer applicable modifiers.
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That's the way it's supposed to be.
I mean, if you're in a synthlether lined duster, knock-off denims, and a t-shirt at a black tie event...
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But, yeah, most people just go with the Lifestyle.
Yeah, there's a reason why my Sasha's custom lifestyle has Luxury Necessities.
I like to think she has a big closet full of clothes from Armanté, Zoé de Paris , Ripon of Mumbai, Ami Feather, Mortimer of London, Laurentine de Lion and Vashon Island 8)
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That's the way it's supposed to be.
I mean, if you're in a synthlether lined duster, knock-off denims, and a t-shirt at a black tie event...
That's why you don't buy knock-offs. If they're designer, people will assume you're a rock star they've never heard of, write off your lack of class, and try their best to ignore you.
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That's the way it's supposed to be.
I mean, if you're in a synthlether lined duster, knock-off denims, and a t-shirt at a black tie event...
That's why you don't buy knock-offs. If they're designer, people will assume you're a rock star they've never heard of, write off your lack of class, and try their best to ignore you.
Security will still be talking to you and checking the guest list.
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Yeah, there's a reason why my Sasha's custom lifestyle has Luxury Necessities.
Your Minigun has it's own lifestyle?
That's why you don't buy knock-offs. If they're designer, people will assume you're a rock star they've never heard of, write off your lack of class, and try their best to ignore you.
Or eccentric.
To put things in perspective: There's a story about a friend of the family that showed up at a department store after working in her garden and not changing out of her work clothes, the staff ignored her completely. The next day, she showed up dressed what was normal for her, which is quite well. The staff fell over themselves to help her.
She politely pointed out that she could buy the store five times over and not give a damn about the cost, and that she had been in yesterday and ignored based on her appearance.
Moral One: You will be treated as you appear. Try to blend in when you want to be invisible. Try to clash when you want attention. Try to be as ostentatious as possible when you want people to remember the clothing and not the person in them. "He was in a human wearing..." "But anything about the human himself? Complexion, eye colour, hair colour?" "Now that you mention it, I don't remember.".
Moral Two: Never assume. That guy sleeping in the gutter in the beat up lined coat that's so old it's cracked? Street Samurai down on his luck and willing to gut you three ways before you hit the ground with his martial arts and cyberspurs before you hit the ground for dissing him. Or, alternatively, someone doing overwatch. Also, he might just be a bum... Who is a contact of an enemy and is being paid to watch and report on who goes in and out of a building.
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Yeah, there's a reason why my Sasha's custom lifestyle has Luxury Necessities.
Your Minigun has it's own lifestyle?
No, my main character build witch is starting to turn into an endless project as new book with nice new stuff keep coming out ;D
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Moral Two: Never assume. That guy sleeping in the gutter in the beat up lined coat that's so old it's cracked? Street Samurai down on his luck and willing to gut you three ways before you hit the ground with his martial arts and cyberspurs before you hit the ground for dissing him. Or, alternatively, someone doing overwatch. Also, he might just be a bum... Who is a contact of an enemy and is being paid to watch and report on who goes in and out of a building.
One of our players was questioning a 'bum', turned out to be a ridiculous ganger that moved like a marionette.
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Your character has a wardrobe based on lifestyle, if you are using the expanded rules in Runner Companion I thinks its under necessities. If you want armored clothing (and I think all runners should have some, there are times when you can't wear the heavy stuff) or clothing beyond what your lifestyle would provide you should pay nuyen for it. A well prepaired runner should have gear on hand to cover a nice club or a fancy party and still have some protection. Jobs are not always paramilitary gunbunny stuff. Sometimes you need to blend.
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I most certainly agree, but recently she's been on the run and hiding out in various places. Now our living quarters are paid for, we own a 24 floor apartment building and we're collecting the protection.
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Actioneer Business Clothes, an almost must-have for almost any 'Runner. Even if just for the meet with Mr. Johnson. The Concealed Holster as standard is a nice touch, and I usually get an RFID Tag Eraser and Fire Resistance as standard options on mine.
Line Coats are another popular option with Shadowrunners since 2050. ("You get one when you graduate from Shadowrunner School." as one person in my group put it.). Not as fashionable with the higher class, but perfect for street wear. Or, in the right brands, they are great trenchcoats or greatcoats and fit right in during the rain or cold seasons. (Aside from my beard, noone would look at me twice in my greatcoat here in Winnipeg.).
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I rather like Vashon Island's (Shiwase) Synergist Line, which I imagine to look like a changshan or qipao. Something I wish I had. Plus, the Synergist Long Coat is a Lined Coat, but fashionable. You probably look like a bodyguard, but at least you're dressed for the occassion.
And form fitting body armor is always fashionable, of course.
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The SecureTech PPP (Personal Protection Piecemeal) system, available in discreet "Under street clothing" versions, are perfect for any occasion. Admittedly, woman's dresses give them a lack of options with the items (Bare arms and slits along the legs prevent those items from being worn there), but men are lucky in that a tux will cover the whole body save the head.
Oh, BTW, the Matte Black Hammerli 620S works great with both the traditional "Little Black Dress" and Tuxedos as accessories, apparently.
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To answer the main question, my PC has leanred to wear whatever is needed for the occasion, simply put. Just because he is a Merc dosen't mean he HAS to dress in BDUs all the time...even though they are damn comfortable.
But does he wear his armor to the store? Yes. Even when not actively working , I have what I call "battle casual". Can't always wear the mill-spec stuff, but there is always something, armor wise. Lined coat or form fitting armor are common with a heavy pistol (I suggest a Browning Ultra-Power) in a consealed holster and a cougar shortblade for when things get up close and personal.
Things are nasty out there, being prepared is another step towards survival.
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One of my characters (Jon "Money" Johnson) has a whole collection of firearms specifically for wardrobe accessories. But he swears by the Browning Ultra-Power in .45 ACCP in a small of the back (SOB) holster as his standard carry piece.
And he's the legit SINner of my group of characters that I have floating around in my head!
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To put things in perspective: There's a story about a friend of the family that showed up at a department store after working in her garden and not changing out of her work clothes, the staff ignored her completely. The next day, she showed up dressed what was normal for her, which is quite well. The staff fell over themselves to help her.
She politely pointed out that she could buy the store five times over and not give a damn about the cost, and that she had been in yesterday and ignored based on her appearance.
I got to do this once :) After scraping and saving for several years, I had enough money in savings to buy my new car outright. So I went to the bank and got it out in cash ;D
After visiting several car places in shirt and board shorts, was eventually got served by one new girl, and advised her I'd take the car.
She gave me all the dubious looks of: And how would you like to finance that?
Response: Erm, well, do you take money? *drops bundles of cash tied with rubber bands*
The store was actually really pissed with me, as they had to spend time counting the cash and locking it up... apparently people don't pay in cash anymore....
But yes, appearances matter. In game, I have specific wardrobe packs for occasions... some armoured, most not. I do however, appear to be the only PC ion the group who spends money on non-Combat requirements.... damned combat monsters....
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Actually, the issue with using cash for big purchases is that there are investigations about that now. It's a way of laundering money, after all.
It was bad enough that Canadian Legislation was passed awhile ago that UTILITY BILLS couldn't be paid in cash. It *HAD* to go through a bank account. This was the reason given.
IIRC, that's been revoked.
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Stupid.
Don't the darn bills say 'legal tender for all debts public and private'? I could see why they prefer a cashier's check or something but still. Inventing crap to be worried about it seems like.
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For years, you couldn't actually pay your utility bills at the actual utility storefront in cash yourself by their own rules. Although, I think that was more a "Let's not get robbed at the first of the month, every month!" issue.
The legislation was a weird one, which confused a lot of people. As I put it to the manager at the bank I have dealt with for well over a decade: "Money laundering, at $50 or so a month?" "Yeah, I know, utter BS. But it's the law, Sir." "OK, I can understand that."
I was having a bad day. So I decided to go "Angry Ontarian" on the flatlanders here. :P
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For years, you couldn't actually pay your utility bills at the actual utility storefront in cash yourself by their own rules. Although, I think that was more a "Let's not get robbed at the first of the month, every month!" issue.
The legislation was a weird one, which confused a lot of people. As I put it to the manager at the bank I have dealt with for well over a decade: "Money laundering, at $50 or so a month?" "Yeah, I know, utter BS. But it's the law, Sir." "OK, I can understand that."
I was having a bad day. So I decided to go "Angry Ontarian" on the flatlanders here. :P
Ahhh, the cashless society.... Shadowtech is catching up again ;)
So, back to OP thread. Any fun descriptors for PC fashion sense?
SR Cars have that neat mod to customise paint jobs and logos.
Currently, we have Customised LED wheel hubs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9yl6jmjZQ&feature=related) (apologies for the pimping music ...it's the market, I guess...)
Anyone think Shadowrun fashion will have similar things? AR tags especially?
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Ahhh, the cashless society.... Shadowtech is catching up again ;)
So, back to OP thread. Any fun descriptors for PC fashion sense?
SR Cars have that neat mod to customise paint jobs and logos.
Currently, we have Customised LED wheel hubs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9yl6jmjZQ&feature=related) (apologies for the pimping music ...it's the market, I guess...)
Anyone think Shadowrun fashion will have similar things? AR tags especially?
Ohhh, my Rigger is so having those on her wheels.
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Currently, we have Customised LED wheel hubs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9yl6jmjZQ&feature=related) (apologies for the pimping music ...it's the market, I guess...)
Anyone think Shadowrun fashion will have similar things? AR tags especially?
Ohhh, my Rigger is so having those on her wheels.
I was going to dis those royally, but that actually looks like a good design.
Unfortunately, it'd be filled with bad ideas. :(
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My Rigger has the "Signature" and "Distinctive Style" flaws. She need those wheels for her symbol.
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My Rigger has the "Signature" and "Distinctive Style" flaws. She need those wheels for her symbol.
Oooooooooooooooo, bad combo!
My compliments! ;D
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My characters like the diesel-/steampunkish look of Anielski-Joop.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs34/i/2008/304/1/1/Shadowrun_Fashion_Label_by_raben_aas.jpg)
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I quite liked Armante's Dallas line as in Cannon Companion, and was a bit disappointed that Zoe had taken over Armante's 'remains' (as of Arsenal) and discontinued the fashion line.
So I wondered about the Dallas line - has it fallen out of favour/regarded as passe, is it collectable, is it completely forgotten?
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My characters like the diesel-/steampunkish look of Anielski-Joop.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs34/i/2008/304/1/1/Shadowrun_Fashion_Label_by_raben_aas.jpg)
;o
Is there picture examples for the companies somewhere? I would love to see examples of their styles~
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There were in-game ads fpr several of the now-iconic SR fashion labels in older releases (I distinctly remember a troll in a kilt :) ) and there arte some pix in the current release of Arsenal – however, only the German version of the Artsenal book has "in-game style pix" like that Anielski-Joop thing, and only for the three European fashion lines introduced with the German version (Anielski-Joop, Rheingold (which is called Rhinegold in one of the US books) and dressCODE).
AAS
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I keep saying it, why are the Germans getting the really good stuff?
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I keep saying it, why are the Germans getting the really good stuff?
This.
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I keep saying it, why are the Germans getting the really good stuff?
No kidding....this is something I would love to have for my players (and if I ever get to actually play instead of run).
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Out of game, Germans have the in on goth and industrial. These guys used to be a client of mine. I pull fashion pics from their website.
www.x-tra.de
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Out of game, Germans have the in on goth and industrial. These guys used to be a client of mine. I pull fashion pics from their website.
www.x-tra.de
i do like some of their stuff. Though I dig cyberpunk so much more right now.
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Out of game, Germans have the in on goth and industrial. These guys used to be a client of mine. I pull fashion pics from their website.
www.x-tra.de
Uuuuuh xtrax german goths (at least the ones in Koblenz (where I life)) laugh about this shop.
Do anyone of you have more Pics from MrJohnson? I'm working on an dress for cyberpunk larp.
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Is it bad that my most recent build has new Zoe suit from R&G with Electrochromic added to it.
Change colors, wear it again next week to a different meet & no one is the wiser ;)
Electrochromic has to be my favorite add on for most things. I put in on my Suits, my Lined Coats, my SynthLeather-Dusters, etc etc.
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My characters tend to wear Evo Fashion, not just because they're one of the few options on the market that accommodate tails, fur, and digitigrade legs, but I also like spandex jogging suits and other loose fitting active wear.
A PPP Vitals protector, Armoured vest and half suit go well under anything though. I'll never go outside with less, unfortunately that means I can almost never find a time to wear my skimpier outfits.
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I was having a bad day. So I decided to go "Angry Ontarian" on the flatlanders here. :P
You said "Eh" more fiercely? ???
;)
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My character knows a 'disguise fixer' who sells and rents out clothing (armored or not) for a full-amount deposit and 10% purchase price per day; he also keeps selected accoutrements such as jewelry with corporate logos, favored brands of minor electronics, and the like, also for purchase or rent. The repair price to for any damage the clothing/gear has sustained is taken out of the deposit when you return it to him.
This allows a character to be able to go to him, say 'I need to sleaze my way into a Corp X building as an Archetype', and he'll supply the right stuff - the right armored clothing for members of that corporation, a watch with that corp's logo on the face, a commlink of the brand issued by that corp. Then, when the run is done, if you haven't totally trashed the gear, you can recoup part of what can be thousands of nuyen from not making actual purchases. You could use the guy out of Run & Gun; I had my own invented back in 3e, so I still use him.
Mr. Cleaner: Clothiers/Armorers
Using my contact system, the organization is a highly skilled (ratings 9-10, r.5) moderately well-connected (r.4) group with numerous (26-100, r.2) members that specializes in Clothing/Armor Sales and Rental. Their high skills are Armorer (as the GM likes, at least a 6) and a 'Corp Fashion and Styles' knowledge skill (at 10). Acquiring the contact at Loyalty 1 will cost 13 Karma.