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Title: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <06-07-11/1112:34>
This shows what a wealthy narcogang can com up with

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13676259

 :o
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-07-11/1219:23>
*Shrug*  Old lorries, armour plate bought from a scrapyard, and armoured glass (That's a bit harder to get.).  Not exactly "High Tech".  You just need a really good welder, and you'd have a WWI/Early WWII-Era Armoured Car.  Certainly is stepping things up from Technicals, however.

And if there's anything the NarcoTerrorist Gangs have is money.  More than they could ever launder effectively.  Which makes jobs like this so much easier.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <06-07-11/1305:06>
The Tech isn't as important as the effectiveness of the ability of the object to have it do what you want. You don't need fancy. You need what works. And considering it will stop anything short of a RPG....that's pretty good
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: Valashar on <06-07-11/1332:16>
Very A-Team.  8)
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-07-11/2214:40>
The Tech isn't as important as the effectiveness of the ability of the object to have it do what you want. You don't need fancy. You need what works. And considering it will stop anything short of a RPG....that's pretty good
Too bad Russian RPG-7s (And their various knock-offs) are pretty easy to get, and probably cheaper than the truck they turned into an armoured car...  :(
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <06-08-11/1136:02>
true. but it supposes that the OpFors would know where to loog for as such. And secondly....Mexican police don't get that sort of hard ware.  Mexican army...OTOH
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-08-11/1148:39>
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The tanks, dubbed "monsters" by the security forces, are believed to be the latest weapon in the fight between the Gulf cartel and their rivals, the Zetas, for control of the drug smuggling routes to the US.
I don't think the Zetas have the same armament restrictions the Mexican Police Force has.  :P
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-08-11/1210:04>
So, how many miles per gallon do you get out of these things and do they come in hybrid?
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-08-11/1243:31>
So, how many miles per gallon do you get out of these things and do they come in hybrid?
One highway, zero city.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: Rockopolis on <06-08-11/2238:46>
 I thought they were hybrids; half tank, half Dekotora.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: farothel on <06-09-11/1135:55>
the handling penalty must be something along -8 or so.  :P
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-09-11/1523:41>
Who needs handling when the only obstacle that's got a chance to stop you is a medium-or-larger-sized mountain?
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-09-11/1526:38>
Who needs handling when the only obstacle that's got a chance to stop you is a medium-or-larger-sized mountain?
Bad roads.  Like, unpaved roads.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: JoeNapalm on <06-09-11/1628:09>
Who needs handling when the only obstacle that's got a chance to stop you is a medium-or-larger-sized mountain?
Bad roads.  Like, unpaved roads.

Mod it to hover.  :o

-Jn-
Ifriti Sophist
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-09-11/1858:12>
A primary reason so many armoured vehicles are caterpillar tread (Along with construction vehicles) is to displace the mass over a larger area to prevent sinking and improve traction.  Russian Tanks in WWII (About the technology we're talking about here with these armoured cars) had wider tracks to deal with the lack of paved roads, while German tanks with thinner treads were designed (partly) with the Autobahn in mind.

Not sure how good the condition of the roads in Mexico and South America are, but if they're any worse than the highways of Northern Ontario and parts of the Prairie Provinces, that thing would get stuck on the way to the gunfight.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <06-14-11/1830:08>
and The Libyan rebels show us some true frankenarmor and arms

http://defensetech.org/2011/06/13/libyan-rebels-mount-apc-gun-turret-on-pickup/

http://defensetech.org/2011/06/14/libyan-rebels-diy-weapons-factory-robots-and-all/
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-14-11/1940:43>
...

I just found the Libyan equivalent of a friend of mine...   :o

And the DIY Weapons Factory sounds like a military version of "Junkyard Wars", only a lot more serious.

As for that Truck, the thing that makes it the most win is the cheap office chair under the turret.   ;D
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <06-15-11/0843:33>
Lordy, I hadn't noticed that   ;D
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-15-11/1141:46>
There were a few other scary parts of those links that hit me, but I will not comment upon them...
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <06-16-11/1140:11>
Going further on the DIY Weapons of Libya, mostly on topic with the Improvised AFVs:

A Libyan rebel fighter, in a vehicle rigged with armor plating, flashes a victory sign at a territory taken from forces loyal to Muammar Qaddafi, after rebels pushed several kilometers in the direction of Zlitan, west of the rebel-held port city of Misrata, on June 13, 2011. (Reuters/Zohra Bensemra) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/diy-weapons-of-the-libyan-rebels/100086/#img03)

Rebel fighters launch rockets against Qaddafi forces at the frontline along the western entrance of Ajdabiyah April 21, 2011. (Reuters/Amr Abdallah Dalsh) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/diy-weapons-of-the-libyan-rebels/100086/#img13)

More Re-purposed Office Chairs:  Libyan rebel fighters opposing Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi fire their weapons at a Libyan airforce fighter jet flying overhead at the entrance to the oil-rich town of Ras Lanuf on March 8, 2011. (Roberto Schmidt/AFP/Getty Images) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/diy-weapons-of-the-libyan-rebels/100086/#img18)

A rebel fighter stands next to pickup truck converted into an armored combat vehicle at the front line with Muammar Qaddafi forces, 30 km south from Misrata, Libya, on Friday, May 27, 2011. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd) (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/06/diy-weapons-of-the-libyan-rebels/100086/#img33)

Never, ever doubt or underestimate human ingenuity.  And this is certainly probably some of the stuff we should be putting into the Barrens with some of the larger gangs, especially ones that have a lot of vehicles, and thus technically inclined members.
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: TheWanderingJewels on <07-12-11/0830:43>
and another frankendrone

http://defensetech.org/2011/07/10/rebel-tech-four-wheelers-and-rockets/
Title: Re: Improvised Armored Fighting Vehicle (IRL)
Post by: CanRay on <07-12-11/1222:13>
Damn I wish I was a wrench.