[mamangava]

A long time ago, I used to play SR with a 2E corebook translated to portuguese. I'm new to 4E and I'm new to this forum. I'm doing some research about the official matterial on south america, amazonia and metrópole. I wanna develop my own 'urban Brazil' setting, one that makes more sense with the understanding we brazilians have of ourselves. This (http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3364.0) topic helped some.

From what I read in the historical introductions in 2E and 4E, and in the 6th world almanac, Amazonia is depicted like an exotic setting, in contrast to the spralws of North America and Europe. For us who live in the crowded, polluted, urbanized places of Brazil, it doesn't feel right it would become surrounded by a magic blooming rainforest and taken by a centralized government that protects the environment. And playing São Paulo copying and pasting the Seattle setting feels weird too. The 6th world urban Brazil would be as cyberpunkish as the north hemisphere, but would have a lot of differences.
The official Amazonia setting feels wrong for me and others for a lot of reasons. A few examples. Soy - the food of most of the masses in the 6th world is made from soy, but nobody asks where all that soy comes from. In the real world, a lot of the world's soy is planted in Brazil, much of it in terrain that once was part of the amazon jungle. Brazil is one of the BRICs, it's got a huge consumer market, and the megacorps wouldn't simply hand it to the eco-wizwom. In the last decades, USA and Europe have eagerly defended their interests in foreing countries, why would Brazil be any different? Some brazilian corporations are pretty powerful, and if they didn't become megacorps themselves, they would at least become south american divisions of some megacorp. The south american native cultures are different from north american ones - no totems, for example. Also the situation of the brazilian penitenciary system results in a sui generis organized crime.

But I'm looking for the official setting anyway, to see if there are ideas I like. What books should I check? Other sources?
I'm also looking for that 'Shadows of Latin America' stuff. And I'm also going to check the link mozartprado posted on the other topic (http://d3system.com.br/category/sistemas/shadowrun/).

[Crimsondude]

Sprawl Survival Guide - Metropole
State of the Art 2063 - Rio de Janeiro
Sixth World Almanac - Amazonia
Whatever collateral material you may get about South America in Runner Havens (Caracas)  and War! (Bogota).


I don't know or really expect to ever write anything about South America for many reasons, but just on the off chance I might I've never read SoLA nor will I ever. It's tainted goods as far as influencing any potential future products.

Furthermore, the problem with writing about it in the future is similar to the problem with Target: Awakened Lands, Target: Wastelands, and Hazard Pay—the material is on places where people don't live. 90% of the world population now lives in the Northern Hemisphere. VITAS 1 and 2 alone annihilated huge swaths of population in equatorial and southern regions.

[mamangava]

Thank you James!
The only of those I've got is the almanac, but I'll check if my friends have some of the others.
I also found the bit about the Voodoo magical tradition in the Street Magic. Candomblé and Umbanda sure are a lot more familiar for us here than totemic shamanic tradition, or even the traditions of south american natives.

You mentioned an aspect I hadn't thought of before. The stronger effect of VITAS in the brazilian cities. But maybe that is another that would make sense to change in my setting. Sure the brazilian health service as a whole is a disaster. But the more crowded cities (the ones that would be more affected by VITAS) are also the ones that have great public universities, many of which have medical schools, and therefore have "teaching hospitals". Those public hospitals have cutting edge tech, treat hundreds of patients every day, and publish scientific papers. I actually work in the biggest of those hospitals, Hospital das Clínicas da Universidade de São Paulo. I know other "3rd world" countries experience similar effects, like India and Cuba and posibly Chile, but I don't know about the other countries in south america. And, of course, who can afford it can find plenty of espetacular private hospitals. Of course those hospitals wouldn't be enough to stop VITAS. Brazil (and probably the other south american countries) would still be more affected than the north hemisphere. But not anihilated. It still wouldn't feel right that after VITAS 2 Amazonia take over all of Brazil.
I still have to delve deeper in the d3system work, but it looks good, and seems to have much of the changes I want to make.

[Crimsondude]

To clarify, I did not use "annihilated" lightly. 85% of sub-Saharan Africa was killed by VITAS 1 and 2. I know the Gold and Ivory Coast nations are covered in 6WA, but really all that was left of civilization were the four Azanian Confederation states; one of which is an elven magocracy (basically the African Tir).

I seem to recall that the awakened forces that eventually took over Brazil in 2034 were ... anti-tech ... to say the least, and those that fled ahead of them were exactly those who had the means to. Of course, Metropole also has like 200 Million people IIRC. But then again the original descriptions of it were, essentially, that it was the only place where metahumans were still allowed to live in Amazonia.

[Bonesinger]

Also being Brazilian and interested in making a scenario there, I think quite a lot of sutff happened around our country and neighbors.

Amazonia encompass the north of South America, so it leaves a lot open for the rest of the continent. I haven't read other books, so other than what you guys posted, I don't know what else happened around there.

Personally, I think that São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro would no doubt become the great megaplex of the S. America. I wouldn't be surprised if our sourthern states also ceded (Second Farroupilha Revolution) and Brazil went to war with Argentina, Bolivia and/or other countries.
The VITAS would probably completely wipe out Distrito Federal's surrounding cities (since the population there always goes to Brasilia for medical treatment, the capital would also suffer heavily), as well as a good deal of the northeast population.
Brasília itself (Plano Piloto) would remain mostly untouched due to its historical patrimony nature, with the nearest cities instead becoming a megaplex.

I'll probably expand more into that in the fanfic section later on.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Primary information on Amazonia - which extends from Caracas, Valencia, Bogota, and Cali in the north all the way past Iguazu Falls to Porto Alegre and Uruguay in the south - can be found in the Sixth World Almanac.  Might take that into consideration first, Bonesinger.