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The Value of Pain Editors

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« Reply #15 on: <02-17-13/1713:35> »
I have images of a sammy wading in to combat thinking all is well, and smug abouthow little bullets hurt these days, whilst some wiseguy hacker sits in the corner giggling.
Or, conversely, a fight is going badly for the hacker's side, so he makes the sammy think that last hit was a real bad one, to try and get him to withdraw or give them an opening to escape.
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« Reply #16 on: <02-17-13/1740:39> »
Either way it's going to take even more dedication to bring him down. He's still taking the damage, he just doesn't know it, or even if he does I doubt very much that he'd walk straight into gun fire. Just because you can't feel the bullets doesn't mean you suddenly forget that they hurt you.

And, how do you toggle a bioware?
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« Reply #17 on: <02-17-13/1828:06> »
Yes, but when you're counting on one piece of gear to tell you whether you're almost dead or not, that's a big problem.
Only when you're dumb enough to use it in a way that broadcasts that information / leaves it open to public access.

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« Reply #18 on: <02-17-13/1833:22> »
Yes, but when you're counting on one piece of gear to tell you whether you're almost dead or not, that's a big problem.
Why not?  We have that in real life (although it's not wireless) and it did the exact opposite of warning me that I was close to death when I shattered my elbow.

Good thing I recognized the signs of shock and knew how to deal with it.
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« Reply #19 on: <02-17-13/1907:51> »
Yes, but when you're counting on one piece of gear to tell you whether you're almost dead or not, that's a big problem.
Only when you're dumb enough to use it in a way that broadcasts that information / leaves it open to public access.
Again, if it is connected to the PAN, anyone hacking your PAN will be able to see it on the list of subscribed devices, and get into it from there. 99% of the time someone hacks your cyberware, they're going in through your PAN, because no one wants to stand within 3m of an angry sammy.
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« Reply #20 on: <02-18-13/0017:38> »
That falls under "I left my PAN open to attack".

Smart runners don't. There are, in fact, ways to have a PAN immune to wireless attack.


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« Reply #21 on: <02-18-13/0112:18> »
That falls under "I left my PAN open to attack".

Smart runners don't. There are, in fact, ways to have a PAN immune to wireless attack.


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Just not good ones.  Having to go under the knife every time you need to do a firmware update and so on is not a great plan, especially if you don't have a Loyalty 5+ Street Doc who does cyber work.  Or if you want to be able to use a Tacnet.  And on and on.

Shutting off all wireless has its downsides, and there are some very strong hacking defenses that don't depend on doing so.
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« Reply #22 on: <02-18-13/0114:53> »
Encrypt rating 6 with Optimization (whatever rating is needed) and Ergonomic along with enough Electronic Warfare with a specialty in Encryption to justify having Strong Encryption with a 6 hour interval.
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« Reply #23 on: <02-18-13/0118:17> »
Encrypt rating 6 with Optimization (whatever rating is needed) and Ergonomic along with enough Electronic Warfare with a specialty in Encryption to justify having Strong Encryption with a 6 hour interval.

Don't forget putting Black IC on your PAN.

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« Reply #24 on: <02-18-13/0119:08> »
Or make friends with the hacker.  Or run a centralized tacnet through the technomancer, who has a registered sprite pull Assist Operation on the encryption; has the benefit of being unhackable by any mundane and damned hard to spoof.
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« Reply #25 on: <02-18-13/0119:45> »
Encrypt rating 6 with Optimization (whatever rating is needed) and Ergonomic along with enough Electronic Warfare with a specialty in Encryption to justify having Strong Encryption with a 6 hour interval.

Don't forget putting Black IC on your PAN.

Meh, with that interval, you'll notice something before they get in, and if it's a combat situation, they're dead before they finish the first interval.
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« Reply #26 on: <02-18-13/0122:19> »
Encrypt rating 6 with Optimization (whatever rating is needed) and Ergonomic along with enough Electronic Warfare with a specialty in Encryption to justify having Strong Encryption with a 6 hour interval.

Don't forget putting Black IC on your PAN.

Meh, with that interval, you'll notice something before they get in, and if it's a combat situation, they're dead before they finish the first interval.

With that interval, you've probably switched the slaving by the time one's done, assuming you have a work link and a dummy link.  At which point, you re-encrypt and they have to start all over.
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« Reply #27 on: <02-18-13/0132:25> »
So although there are ways to hack a Biomonitor via PAN, essentially if you put the correct counters (such as using a Hacker friend, Encryption, Black IC, etc.) hacking it becomes incredibly hard. Unless you face Professional Rating 5 or 6 Hackers regularly. Who hack you vs. the rest of the team. Because the GM knows you are the Sammie with Pain Editor. Because Pain Editor is BA  with a Biomonitor.

Although, RHat is right that you can't just completely disable it due to update issues. Tie it to PAN and be smart with defenses. If you are always the guy targeted by a Hacker either A) you need to tone down the I AM THE SAMMIE aspect of your character or B) the GM is screwing you.

I say this BTW even though like 90% of the time I am the GM. Variables exist such as an unscrupulous Street Doc that sells the info on your Pain Editir to the enemy, forcing the enemy to specifically target the Sammie.

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« Reply #28 on: <02-18-13/0209:35> »
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Although, RHat is right that you can't just completely disable it due to update issues.

Not really. Security personnel, for instance, only enable wireless for updating when in secure facilities.

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« Reply #29 on: <02-18-13/0211:38> »
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Although, RHat is right that you can't just completely disable it due to update issues.

Not really. Security personnel, for instance, only enable wireless for updating when in secure facilities.

Which means its connected to something that they can turn the wireless on through.
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