[CanRay]

FastJack has too much cyber to be a Technomancer.  His daughter, OTOH...

[Valashar]

If it was a dissonant thing, it would probably be immediately obvious to any technomancer, as Dissonance has a certain fundamental "wrongness".  Also, it wouldn't fit with the goals of any known dissonant strain.

And Clockwork's motivations are irrelevant to the fact that his actions were a good thing.

Not to be a pain in the ass RHat but wasn't there a chat log (I think it might have been in threats 2 ) where pax is hiding under a different name and communicating with at least 2 "normal" technomancers and neither of them realise it till she brings in her two leutenants ?? If I'm right that could show that a normal technomancer might not realises with out excessive contact..... Then again I could be wrong and if I am i apologise in advance

As for clockwork well as I said I don't think he cares about good or bad just getting paid...  But i doubt the other jackpointers will ever let him forget about his selling out of netcat no matter what good he will ever do

The conversation with Pax and her followers crashing a discussion happened back in 3rd edition (Threats 2) when otaku were the resonance/dissonance kids. It predates crash 2.0 by three years or so.

And yeah, Fastjack's daughter, Perri is a technomancer who was an otaku beforehand. Pax used her has bait to try and kill Fastjack by trapping him in with his own personal copy of the Jormangund worm but he kicked its ass. (the story is in the SR4A main book, Happy Trails... the second piece of fiction in the book).

[Hellion]

FastJack has too much cyber to be a Technomancer.  His daughter, OTOH...

If it was a dissonant thing, it would probably be immediately obvious to any technomancer, as Dissonance has a certain fundamental "wrongness".  Also, it wouldn't fit with the goals of any known dissonant strain.

And Clockwork's motivations are irrelevant to the fact that his actions were a good thing.

Not to be a pain in the ass RHat but wasn't there a chat log (I think it might have been in threats 2 ) where pax is hiding under a different name and communicating with at least 2 "normal" technomancers and neither of them realise it till she brings in her two leutenants ?? If I'm right that could show that a normal technomancer might not realises with out excessive contact..... Then again I could be wrong and if I am i apologise in advance

No clue, but at that point we're talking about an entirely different thing.  Otaku are not technomancers. They are conceptually linked, but they are not the same thing.

I think after all the searching I did last night thru entirely to many books I can safely say that otaku aren't technomancer, they can however evolve into them....

[CanRay]

Someday I'll learn not to post before my morning tea.

[Hellion]

Lol tea ? Canray its coffee or a full strength btl version of some kind soul ingesting that needs to be consumed by your good self....

[Sichr]

Idn how much dissonant TM`s are recognizable RAW, but IMO toxic magicians are also able to pass standard assensing scan. If they decide to, i mean.

[CanRay]

Lol tea ? Canray its coffee or a full strength btl version of some kind soul ingesting that needs to be consumed by your good self....

I gave up coffee after I realized I was up to three pots a day.

...

Actually, I gave up coffee after I decided to give up coffee.  And, let me tell you, for a legal and widely used drug, it's not easy to kick.

[AJCarrington]

Actually, I gave up coffee after I decided to give up coffee.  And, let me tell you, for a legal and widely used drug, it's not easy to kick.

Very much agreed, though it does remain my vice of choice...

[Hellion]

I gave up the ciggies and that's pretty hard but I doubt I'd be able to give up coffee.... It's usually the available or legal drugs that are the worst...

[Warmachinez]

Not that I want to bring this back on topic, but WOW is this book great!

Here are some of my thoughts:
Dragons killing themselves, and the whole of humanity should be grateful of Lofwyr. (Horrible I know...)
Az-Am war finishes and we all knew who was going to win... (and hate them for it)
The AAA Japanese Threesom! (What more is there to say, WHO wouldn't like this?    )
Ares' betrayal to its clients (You have been my favorite since I opened my first book of SR. How could you make me doubt my Predator? Shame on you!)
The end of an Era. The machines will invade us, they control our mind! (FastJack, you will be missed)


After reading this, I have never felt this much connected to the SR universe. Great job to everyone who participated in its creation. Also, the crunchy parts at the end of the book are just incredible. Had I known this book was so awesome, I wouldn't have started a Pathfinder game 4 weeks ago. I would have had my players participate in the most epic moments of the SR universe. I guess I will have to lose inspiration for the Pathfinder game...

P.S. Is there a place where we can talk about what happened to FastJack and the others? A secret node within Jackpoint? We need to find out what these things are and how to stop them.

[Hellion]

Warmachinez I suspect very much that the Brain invaders (SEARCH) will not be explained in one hit its too much of a complex thing to get thru in one hit.... And I think that between Slammo! Glitch and Bull they don't really have a hell of a lot of a chance to get into jackpoint now that they are all aware of the signs.

But I will now have to start having to safe for the next pdf to see if I can figure out what pucks comment is about.... It has been bouncing around in my head the last couple of nights when I'm trying to go to sleep and certainly has kept me from getting to sleep on a couple of occasions.....

The other thing that bothers me/ suprises me is that Kane doesn't really say goodbye and that there are a couple of others who also seem to be missing in saying good bye...

[Black]

Warmachinez I suspect very much that the Brain invaders (SEARCH) will not be explained in one hit its too much of a complex thing to get thru in one hit.... And I think that between Slammo! Glitch and Bull they don't really have a hell of a lot of a chance to get into jackpoint now that they are all aware of the signs.

But I will now have to start having to safe for the next pdf to see if I can figure out what pucks comment is about.... It has been bouncing around in my head the last couple of nights when I'm trying to go to sleep and certainly has kept me from getting to sleep on a couple of occasions.....

The other thing that bothers me/ suprises me is that Kane doesn't really say goodbye and that there are a couple of others who also seem to be missing in saying good bye...

Its a loose professional network of.. well.. professional criminals.  Not a book club,.  Most of them aint friends, just aquitances at best.  Respect the talent, but no personal connections (yes, this is not true for all of them though).  Really not surprised.  Besides, at least in Kane's case, not sure how close he and Jack really are?

[Mirikon]

Also, you have to consider whether Kane would really post his feelings on an open board, instead of, say, hijacking a radio station in downtown Seattle to broadcast it while his guys are doing a job. Just sayin'.

[Lysanderz]

Mirikon, stop reading my damn run notes for my team's next job!

[raggedhalo]

I was under the impression that Pax was the one in charge of MTC's "Rose Garden", Dr. Sharon What's her face.

The Sharon in that context is a surname (here's an example you might have heard of), not a first name.  IIRC, Dr. Sharon is a dude and thus probably not Pax.