[mtfeeney = Baron]

It's only funny until you meet his Spoon Golem.

[RHat]

And this is why prepared vessels can be awesome.

[All4BigGuns]

Also, since it looks like everybody's using chummer anyway, could everybody post their proposal in the prelim chummer file so I only have one format for everyone?

I don't trust renaming the '.<blah>' portion of a file in maintaining a file's integrity, so I can't post such a file here. (Personal idiosyncrasy stemming from paranoia of the file becoming corrupted. Whether others have succeeded or not does not change the issue.)

[Aryeonos]

put the file in a zip file, real easy, that's how I did it. You could change the file extension, it's just going to change a few bits, and then your computer has a catalogue of files that go to what program it's not actually modifying the integral data.

But yes, magnetic, crystaline copper, spoons. Shaped into a golem.

Not as bad as the time I gave our party's tank (Massive Iguana, Pathfinder) a few gold to buy some drink, doing the math he somehow magically came back with some 40'000 pounds of weak alcohol.

[All4BigGuns]

put the file in a zip file, real easy, that's how I did it. You could change the file extension, it's just going to change a few bits, and then your computer has a catalogue of files that go to what program it's not actually modifying the integral data.

Just because it worked for a couple people doesn't mean those people didn't get lucky. I don't trust it, and really, I don't see it as a necessary thing. The characters can be posted in other forms (as many have already been).

[mtfeeney = Baron]

I don't know why this site doesn't allow attaching .chum files, but the reason he wants a chummer file is so he can verify your karma expenditure and the page references for everything you purchased.

[RHat]

put the file in a zip file, real easy, that's how I did it. You could change the file extension, it's just going to change a few bits, and then your computer has a catalogue of files that go to what program it's not actually modifying the integral data.

Just because it worked for a couple people doesn't mean those people didn't get lucky. I don't trust it, and really, I don't see it as a necessary thing. The characters can be posted in other forms (as many have already been).

Right click > Send To > Compressed (zipped) folder.  System does a formal compression to a zipped folder, which should be attachable.

[All4BigGuns]

put the file in a zip file, real easy, that's how I did it. You could change the file extension, it's just going to change a few bits, and then your computer has a catalogue of files that go to what program it's not actually modifying the integral data.

Just because it worked for a couple people doesn't mean those people didn't get lucky. I don't trust it, and really, I don't see it as a necessary thing. The characters can be posted in other forms (as many have already been).

Right click > Send To > Compressed (zipped) folder.  System does a formal compression to a zipped folder, which should be attachable.

That one is more like it and helpful (thought that it required the 'paid for' version of winzip or other such to do it (again, really hate just changing suffixes because of what it can do with types like .dll files and whatnot).

[Mirikon]

Also, since it looks like everybody's using chummer anyway, could everybody post their proposal in the prelim chummer file so I only have one format for everyone?

Don't have chummer, don't bother with it. I modified the Excel sheet I made to do SR characters to do karmagen, and did it up in that, since there were variant rules I didn't feel like trying to program into Hero Lab.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

That sounds awesome, care to share?

[Aryeonos]

As a standardized resource it's quite nice to have everyone's chummer file, I can easily tab through my players character sheets instead of having to jump around the thread for an hour trying to find where they left it, why wouldn't you use chummer?

[All4BigGuns]

As a standardized resource it's quite nice to have everyone's chummer file, I can easily tab through my players character sheets instead of having to jump around the thread for an hour trying to find where they left it, why wouldn't you use chummer?

He probably doesn't see any need since he has that Excel sheet. I don't really know Excel, so I don't have that option--that's why I got Chummer (kept it because HeroLab is way too fragging expensive, though I'd have it if it were fully functional for all sources for the cost of a single source book--as it SHOULD be).

[Mirikon]

As a standardized resource it's quite nice to have everyone's chummer file, I can easily tab through my players character sheets instead of having to jump around the thread for an hour trying to find where they left it, why wouldn't you use chummer?

Because I don't really need it. And really, making an Excel sheet for Shadowrun is child's play. Just a lot of tedious nested IF() statements. The one I converted was the stripped down one I made for AIs. The real problem is that with karmagen you can't make a nice simple auto-calculating statement, since the costs don't scale linearly. There's a limit to how many nested IF() statements you can make, which becomes a problem when setting it up to calculate the karma cost of attributes based on metatype, or setting it up to display the proper cost of base skills, specializations, and skill groups. The coding isn't difficult if you ever covered Boolean logic in math, but it is time consuming to set up. Once you have the template, however, you can use the sheet as many times as you like.

[Sichr]

When character is created in chummer, it can be uploaded to 'omae' and can be shared with no further complications with all improvements and such. IMO the second best advantage the program has, next to being free and actualized.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Could someone give me a rundown of how this actually works?  I've read through a few pages of the other games, but I don't quite get it.  They use different colors for different types of information, which I get even if I don't understand how you change the color.  How do you roll?  What are the rules about when you can or can't post?  What if someone asks your character a question and you don't see it for a few hours because you're in bed, but then 5 people post in the meantime?