[All4BigGuns]

My husband seems to include GM-Nissan Dobermans with every build he makes, I start forgetting there are other drones out  there. My personal favourite is the Unicorn, which my hacker has one of, modified with chameleon coating and improved takeoff and lnding 2, y'know... incase.

I like the Doberman, the Steel Lynx and the LEBD-1.

[Aryeonos]

This is what I have my OMON rig, I'm rather fond of it.

Mitsuhama Chinpira (Large)
   +Ammo Bins
   +Ammo Bins
   +Armor, Smart Rating 10
   +Body Stabilizer Rating 3
   +Searchlight
   +Smoke Projector
   +Weapon Mount (Normal, External, Flexible, Remote)
   +Weapon Mount (Normal, External, Flexible, Remote)
   +Weapon Mount (Reinforced, External, Flexible, Remote)
   +Ammo: Assault Cannon (Assault Cannons) x50
   +Ammo: Capsule Rounds (Light Machine Guns) x500
      +Pepper Punch
   +Ammo: Freeze Foam (Light Machine Guns) Rating 3 x500
   +Ammo: Gel Rounds (Light Machine Guns) x500
   +Large Drone Sensor


Can't seem to find my walker mode enabled Steel lynxes though, they were rather handy too.

[Mirikon]

I still wish I could find a GM who would allow me to get one of these: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=5923.0

[Aryeonos]

Steel lynx with the personnel compartment, and walker mode seems to be the closest I've gotten anything to tachikoma. But then again, having something that can walk and roll is fine enough without needing to carry a person, since I had them launched from an APC for very short range raids.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Changes to my commlink software and added a melee spec to my Dodge.  Software is hacked, either done by my hacker contact or located by him or...whatever makes the most sense.  I was inspired by Dirk Montgomery and Buddy(from 2XS, the fourth SR novel).

[Aryeonos]

9'000 nuyen a week is pretty costly overhead to maintain with that nanoware, you'll be near defaulting after 3 weeks with how low your skills are. Also you can't have a firewall higher than your system. I dunno if one license will count for all those programs either. Empathy software is... usually banned by GMs, but the dice pool cap is 20, so you only need it at 5.

And you have an extra 80 karma, why not raise all your attributes at 2 up to 3?

[Mithlas]

You could remove HPC from the gun, you won't get the slots back, but depending on how Mithlas rules high powered chambering you might not need it. As far as big rifles go, I've always liked the PSG Enforcer, or the PJSS Model 55 modded with 2 extra barrels.

If it's like magnum chambering in real life, that would generally require the gun to be retooled slightly to be able to properly chamber the longer rounds, and you wouldn't be able to hot-swap back and forth from HPC to regular rounds (but then again, given the variety of rounds that can be used with standard chambering, it's almost not worth the cost and risks for HPC if I red consensus on the forums right).

Just is a shame that the AM-47 requires High Power ammo because the look is cool, I think--I won't try removing a stock mod like that without explicit permission.

If you know a gunsmith I'd think it's possible.

So, seriously, can someone tell me how we do this?  I understand roleplaying, I understand how the game works, I can figure out the color coding(although I wish there was a standard color coding set)... I have no idea how to roll.  I see their rolls are somehow links to a site called invisible castle or something, but that doesn't explain anything.

Don't worry too much about that, when I post the IC thread I'll plop down 3 posts so I can have rules and recommendations all in one place. Most people use Invisible Castle because it's free, easy, and the rolls are saved so you and others can look them up later.

Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 3
   +Spatial Recognizer
   +Chemical Seal
   +Hardening Rating 6
   +Skinlink

Chemical Seal is an armor modification (S4A 327) and commlink modification that's described as providing some basic protection against water - I suppose you could put it on earbuds given that it isn't described as being specifically for larger electronics, but I don't think that it would normally be needed for earbuds.

Neural Amplifiers, Limbic Rating 3

Keep in mind that nanoware suffers degradation when it's not supported by a nanohive (Augmentation 107).

Mirikon, can you get 2 or 3 of those nodeshiko drones and jump back and forth between them, essentially paying as your own squad of killer bots?

Jumping into a drone is a Simple Action unless you've got the quality More Than Metahuman, which still takes up a Free Action, and either way while you're controlling one drone the others aren't doing anything because you're not jumped in.

@mtfeeney: I'll post feedback on your revised character as soon as I can, but it's looking pretty good.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

9'000 nuyen a week is pretty costly overhead to maintain with that nanoware, you'll be near defaulting after 3 weeks with how low your skills are. Also you can't have a firewall higher than your system. I dunno if one license will count for all those programs either. Empathy software is... usually banned by GMs, but the dice pool cap is 20, so you only need it at 5.

And you have an extra 80 karma, why not raise all your attributes at 2 up to 3?

What're you talking about in regards to 9k nuyen per week?  I'll look into the firewall rating, i didn't know there was a limitation.  The license is actually there for the nonstandard wireless link.  None of the software is restricted or illegal, so no license necessary.  The Empathy software(like all of my other programs) is limited by my system, so it runs at 5.  As for a cap to the dicepool, that is both an optional rule and (20 dice or 2x skill + attribute).  In my case, 2x would be 24.  My dicepool is 21, chummer doesn't account for commlink optimization.

After scouring SR4A, there's no mention of Firewall having any limit or link to system.

Neural amplifiers come with dedicated nanohives.  No degradation issue here.  For Mirikon jumping between bots, I was assuming an agent/pilot was controlling the drone while he wasn't actively in it.  I grabbed chemseal just in case.  I don't want my toys messed up.  I can remove that if it's silly or excessive, though.

I have 0 Karma left to spend.  I spent 30 for metatype, 320 for attributes, 100 for special attributes, 60 for positive qualities, -70 for negative qualities, 44 for nuyen, 65 for skill groups, 132 for active skills, 50 for spells, 6 for foci, and 13 for initiation = 750 Karma.

[Sichr]

Firewall is standalone matrix attribute, that is independent of others, thus it is not limited by Response or System.
The empathy sofware allows you to add dices to your dicepool, but remember that the max. DP modifier is limited by the Skill.

[Aryeonos]

9'000 a week to keep both your nanite systems running at top capacity, they degrade by 1 every week. You don't have a nanite hive so they'll degrade. It doesn't say anywhere that they have their own essence free dedicated nanohive, only that they do their work and sit around. They still degrade normally.

Firewall is a program, so it's limited by your system which is limited by your response.

Empathy software is, pure and utter cheese that doesn't even require a skillwire system to use nor does it require a full buildpoint's worth of money to become a better diplomat than any one in the UN.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Firewall is standalone matrix attribute, that is independent of others, thus it is not limited by Response or System.

Yeah.

DP modifier is limited by the Skill.

That isn't correct.  Your DP modifier is limited to your Skill+Attribute.  For me, that's a 4+8.

9'000 a week to keep both your nanite systems running at top capacity, they degrade by 1 every week. You don't have a nanite hive so they'll degrade. It doesn't say anywhere that they have their own essence free dedicated nanohive, only that they do their work and sit around. They still degrade normally.

Ooo...  Thanks, I've apparently been confusing the term dedicated colony with a dedicated hive.  I didn't understand that it meant the swarm of nanites is the colony.  Thanks for that, I'll...  have to figure something out.

Firewall is a program, so it's limited by your system which is limited by your response.

Firewall is an actual stat of your commlink.  It's part of your operating system and integral to your commlink, not a program that you're running constantly and applies to your processor limit.  A quick look through Unwired gives us many examples of Firewall higher than System.  Security Cameras, Smartguns, Civic/MSP WAP, Online Shop Nexus, Brent Cross Shopping Centre's node, the matrix lab at UoCambridge, etc.

Empathy software is, pure and utter cheese that doesn't even require a skillwire system to use nor does it require a full buildpoint's worth of money to become a better diplomat than any one in the UN.

You're free to feel that way.

[All4BigGuns]

Firewall is an actual stat of your commlink.  It's part of your operating system and integral to your commlink, not a program that you're running constantly and applies to your processor limit.  A quick look through Unwired gives us many examples of Firewall higher than System.  Security Cameras, Smartguns, Civic/MSP WAP, Online Shop Nexus, Brent Cross Shopping Centre's node, the matrix lab at UoCambridge, etc.

It is a Matrix Attribute of the comm-link, yes, but so is System and it is limited by Response. When it comes to the other things that show a Firewall higher than Response, look at it this way: those devices probably have Firewalls that are specifically made and optimized to run on those specific devices, allowing them to run one higher at the expense of the software not working on anything else. Now, I can see it being allowable to have such a Firewall on a comm-link, but it would likely cost at least ten times the normal price to get it.

Also, arguing against Firewall being limited by Response is nothing but Rules Lawyer-ing of the worst kind.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Is there a reason you're throwing insults into this?  How can you possibly consider that appropriate?

[mtfeeney = Baron]

It is a Matrix Attribute of the comm-link, yes, but so is System and it is limited by Response. When it comes to the other things that show a Firewall higher than Response, look at it this way: those devices probably have Firewalls that are specifically made and optimized to run on those specific devices, allowing them to run one higher at the expense of the software not working on anything else. Now, I can see it being allowable to have such a Firewall on a comm-link, but it would likely cost at least ten times the normal price to get it.

Ignoring the attack, you're saying that Firewall operates just like every other program?  It's max effective rating is equal to the system/response, it counts against your processor limit, etc.?

[RHat]

A plain-text reading of the rules is not rules lawyering, Guns.  The rule isn't that software Matrix attributes are limited by Response, but that System is limited by Response.  There is no general rule here - I've checked and rechecked it several times.

Also, let's not go confusing the limitation on social modifiers for a limitation on dice pool modifiers more generally - social modifiers are a specific subset: those modifiers that are due to scial circumstance.