[mtfeeney = Baron]

Whaaaaaaat?  How did talking about the rp side of our glamour qualities negating each other turn into discussing whether Baron is a bigot or not?

[mtfeeney = Baron]

2 things.

1) Can we please pick a tense and stick with it for everyone?  Past or present.

2) Chikage sized up the group and we don't look like much?  One of us is a glamoured elf with 8 Charisma.  He definitely looks like much.  Plus, the snake could eat her whole...  That has to earn some points, right?

[mtfeeney = Baron]

No, but we're not discussing the statistical advantages dictated in the RAW.  We're talking about the roleplaying parts, and it doesn't address this subject one way or the other.  It will be beyond silly if when Baron is near Nidhogg, they're both glamoured by each other. 

[mtfeeney = Baron]

No, the "sapient beings always respond with awe, deference, and kindness, see her as having unearthly grace, radiant countenance, amazing voice" stuff.  It makes no sense that we would be in awe of each other.  How can 2 people treat each other with deference?  A person that is all of those things wouldn't be affected by another person that was similar.  The world's greatest singer isn't awed by the world's second greatest singer.  Respect, sure.  Equals, of course.  Awe?  Of course not.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Maybe you guys aren't thinking this through very clearly.  Let's try some examples.

Nidhogg and Baron are going to go through a doorway.

N> After you.
B> No, after you.
N> No, I insist.  After you.
B> No, I must insist.  After you.
N> Really, you go first.
B> Oh, I can't do that.  You go, please.
...and then it repeats for a few hours until they finally collapse from exhaustion.

Nidhogg and Baron are planning how to handle something.

B>  I think we should do whatever you suggest.
N> Oh no, I'm sure whatever you think of will be the best.
B> etc.
nbnbnb... it just keeps going and going.  Mutual deference means nothing ever happens.

Or how about...

Unrealistic co-glamouring
Baron thinks, "Wow, he's the most graceful, angelic thing I've ever seen.  I can't even speak in his presence."
Nidhogg thinks, "Wow, he's the most graceful, angelic thing i've ever seen.  I can't even speak in his presence."

Realistic glamour countering
Baron thinks, "My, what a graceful naga.  That's my kind of snake."
Nidhogg thinks, "Even for an elf, he's got that special something.  Good for him."

See, since Baron is awesome and Nidhogg are awesome(graceful, etc., not awesome in a cocky way), it raises their respective bars for being awed and inspired and such.

[Aryeonos]

B>  I think we should do whatever you suggest.
N> Oh no, I'm sure whatever you think of will be the best.
B> etc.

Ah, my husband and I trying to decide on... anything.

That aside, your realistic example seems... realistic. How queer.
I find the example of awe a little extreme, in the book, actually I find their description obnoxious even if I can hold that power. I always imagined that their polite mannerisms would go to the extent of their upbringing, and at the most extreme it would turn into an Alice in Wonderland situation, or Through the Looking Glass if you like the second.

[Mithlas]

N> After you.
B> No, after you.
N> No, I insist.  After you.

So, in other words, Tosh and Mac?

Glamour's something that's described in fluff text as being innately seen as more impressive and capable. Keep in mind that, like many other qualities, it's probably something that can be toned down. According to a quick google search, Martin Luther King and Winston Churchill are consistently noted as being some of the greatest English-speaking public speakers in history and they varied from subtle to loud as the occasion called for. Glamour isn't explicitly "I am a field that's on and annoying all the time", so let's try not to worry about it too much right now.

[Aryeonos]

You make a good point, Tosh and Mac it is, and Sichr is voiced by David Suchet.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

I miss youtube.....sometimes.

[Aryeonos]

I seem to only visit when given a link there.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Damn it, I keep forgetting that I can roll to add my relevant knowledge skills to my active skills.

[mtfeeney = Baron]

I'll ask again, since nobody responded last time.  Do PbP games normally go this slow?  Since all of our members post repeatedly throughout the day, I thought we would be moving a bit faster than...you know, taking 4 days to meet the Johnson.  I assumed we would all be up for posting a few times per day.

[Aryeonos]

This is pretty standard, and I'd say we're moving at a deliberate pace. The GM has to stop and compile everyone's posts, and if we over extend a bit it can lead to trouble. In the end it just comes down to how much attention the GM can give to the game, and the frequency of the player's posts.

[Mithlas]

I'm honestly not sure how fast it goes, because each PbP seems to take its own pace and varies depending on certain people. I hope that things can jump ahead, but the meeting with the first Johnson isn't one to skip through.

Doing a PbP based on a rule set rather than being based purely on storytelling is very unusual for me. The collating takes a bit of effort, but the harder part is cross-checking all of that with rules, which is something that occurs in a very different manner than a face-to-face meeting which is what my others have been.

[Aryeonos]

I like PbPs for GMing because it gives room to continually do research. I used to run games over steam, but it got down to 2 people and I couldn't keep consistent dates because of RL problems.

This is the only game I'm actually playing in, anywhere, so I can understand being ancy.

edit: sorry I kinda breezed past those waitresses, everyone had already moved up and I was just trying to catch up to the meet.