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« Reply #45 on: <05-14-13/2133:28> »
Because Miniguns are innately cool.

Seriously...I agree the gun is, mechanically speaking, pretty garbage. That hasn't kept it from showing up in my games...because miniguns are innately cool.
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« Reply #46 on: <05-14-13/2353:05> »
I'm only disappoint that there is no checkbox in chummer for buying an MG as a minigun.

Yeah, but that's what those large shrouds are for. Considering it's a rifle grip gun, I'm sure they probably took some considerations for having a heat shroud for use with the gas vents.

I'm no physicist, but if you put a shroud over the port, I'm fairly sure you defeat the purpose.

The escaping gas forces the barrel down. If it pushes up on a shroud...equal, opposite reaction.


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Well, yes a recoil comp muzzle brake would serve that purpose, the gas vent is, at least the internal version, designed to bleed off the gas so it's not shooting full bore out the front.


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« Reply #47 on: <05-15-13/0048:29> »
There should be such a check box in Chummer though. Mention it to Nebular and he'll likely add it in. The side bar in Arsenal says LMGs, MMGs, and HMGs can all be made as miniguns. I suppose you would do this via the High Velocity mod  and though the mod itself only mentions the High Velocity rules on pg 26, I think this is an editing error or just an oversight on the devs part.

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« Reply #48 on: <05-15-13/0204:07> »
I got the impression that when they said any LMG, MMG, or HMG, could be constructed as a minigun was done when it was bought, not as a modification.
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« Reply #49 on: <05-15-13/0318:07> »
I believe previous editions let you do it as a mod. If it was intended as something you buy as a pre-installed thing, they should have included a price markup of some sort. Without that price, the only way to do it is via a mod like High Velocity, which is the closest thing to what a mini-gun is compared to a standard LMG/MMG/HMG. Or at least what seems the most reasonable to me is for anytime you apply the High Velocity mod to those particular weapons it turns them into mini-guns rather than a high velocity version of the weapon. Price and difficulty seem about right.

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« Reply #50 on: <05-15-13/0321:39> »
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Only light, medium, or heavy machine guns can be constructed as miniguns.
That would indicate to me it's a pre-market option, or variation. As in, there are likely weapons similar to an Ares PLD, but are electric driven gatling guns.
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« Reply #51 on: <05-15-13/0326:40> »

That woud be a Hell of a mod.

"We'll, we'll replace the barrel, forearm, chamber, firing mechanism, trigger assembly, ammo feed, sights...maybe keep the stock and fuzzy dice."


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« Reply #52 on: <05-15-13/0335:54> »
All I see are fuzzy dice spinning around at 1'200 RPM. I think that'd be anti gyro-stabilization, negative quality.
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« Reply #53 on: <05-15-13/0345:33> »
All I see are fuzzy dice spinning around at 1'200 RPM. I think that'd be anti gyro-stabilization, negative quality.

They come in pairs for a reason.

You put them on opposite barrels.


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« Reply #54 on: <05-15-13/0347:54> »
It just doesn't seem to work in my head that they'd balance out. But then again my imagination puts certain stupid blocks on me, like every time I think of holding a bokken it won't stay straight forward and instead slips around in my paw, like I couldn't possible control its rotation. I think this is the only downfall to ADHD.
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« Reply #55 on: <05-15-13/0402:58> »

Not only would they balance out, they'd have a gyro-stabilizing effect.

Plus, they'd be awesome.


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« Reply #56 on: <05-15-13/0409:39> »
Well as there are only 3 guns in the game that use mini-gun rules and two of them aren't even machine guns (the GE Vigilant and Vanquisher auto cannons), it seems a bit strange to say that only LMG, MMG and HMGs can be built that way if there is no way to build them. They may as well have just left that line out completely. Did they expect GMs to come up with their own house versions and wanted to limit what they made? Why bother when they themselves break that very restriction with the two cannons? And if a GM wants to have his own house versions of weapon, who are they to say what he can and cannot house rule? Very weird.
How about replacing the strings on those dice with monowire as an ad-hoc brush/person clearing device?

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« Reply #57 on: <05-15-13/0427:07> »
I think in addition to having an "Is Minigun" check box there should be a "Has Fuzzy Dice" check box, now the real question, are they florescent?

I don't think the goal was to make house ruling, it was to say, any LMG-HMG can use the minigun rule, when you purchase it.
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« Reply #58 on: <05-15-13/0434:17> »
What minigun rule?
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« Reply #59 on: <05-15-13/0437:03> »
If we paint the barrels red, do they spin faster to get more bullets out?  ;D
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