[ChewyGranola]

So, maybe its just me, but I feel like the world info does a somewhat poor job of telling us why the CAS left besides "something something economy not the CSA something something". When I read SoNA, the CAS section open with the whole "slavery was nit the civil war cause myth", then disavows the CSA, then talks about how similar the two countries are. They feel the same sabe for a few name changes.

So, here's the question: is there some sort if Secret History behind the CAS seccession? Or is it a case of "make the map look cool"?

[Crimsondude]

The CAS was originally very much the 21st century version of the CSA. It was retconned into a boring puddle of "meh" in SoNA.

But there has been some interesting stuff done to distinguish the CAS from the UCAS as of Dirty Tricks.

[ChewyGranola]

The CAS was originally very much the 21st century version of the CSA. It was retconned into a boring puddle of "meh" in SoNA.

But there has been some interesting stuff done to distinguish the CAS from the UCAS as of Dirty Tricks.

Thanks!

[Tzeentch]

So, maybe its just me, but I feel like the world info does a somewhat poor job of telling us why the CAS left besides "something something economy not the CSA something something".

-- To be fair, it's not like the CAS had much of a distinctive flavor in NAGNA either.
-- But yeah, the "South Shall Rise Again" aspect was basically disemboweled in Third Edition. I don't think it's ever going to come back. Which frankly makes it a poor mans UCAS, and a bit of a third wheel in North American politics. Even worse, Texas has basically become the CAS as far as new material goes. And Texas isn't nearly as interesting or cool as Texans seem to think.

[Patrick Goodman]

Idaho's no great shakes, either, Ken.

[Crimsondude]

WOO!

Go, Oregon!

[grid_roamer]

This is why New York was threatening to secede......

[ImaginalDisc]

Idaho's no great shakes, either, Ken.

But you can have your own private Idaho.

[Tzeentch]

Idaho's no great shakes, either, Ken.

Salish Shidhe >>>> CAS.

[grid_roamer]

Or...

The STC and eventual NAN formation was a symptom of an eirler disfunction.
The Awakening was a situation taken advantage of first by the the STC members, allowing old disagreements (the civil war) to become recycled.... 

[Crimsondude]

Tír Tairngire Uber Alles.

[Stainless Steel Devil Rat]

In my head canon the difference between UCAS and CAS is actually the former USA Blue State vs Red State divide finally coming to a head about disagreements about the nature of what the UCAS should be.

CAS: "Fine.  You go be hippie socialist weasels, we'll make our own country."
UCAS: "Fine.  We got enough problems in the Sixth World than to provide you with our socialist welfare benefits."

[Crimsondude]

Pretty much.

[ChewyGranola]

In my head canon the difference between UCAS and CAS is actually the former USA Blue State vs Red State divide finally coming to a head about disagreements about the nature of what the UCAS should be.

CAS: "Fine.  You go be hippie socialist weasels, we'll make our own country."
UCAS: "Fine.  We got enough problems in the Sixth World than to provide you with our socialist welfare benefits."

Yeah that's close to how I have it. I figure the UCAS (which I renamed the FSA for fun) is a centralized, top down almost fascist state disguised as a representative democracy. The CAS (which I renamed the ASA) is a decentralized, states rights gone wild kind of place disguised as a federal republic.

[ImaginalDisc]

Yeah that's close to how I have it. I figure the UCAS (which I renamed the FSA for fun) is a centralized, top down almost fascist state disguised as a representative democracy.

Fascist, but toothless on domestic and economic affairs?