[Mirikon]

To be fair, the global death toll wasn't equally distributed, and there WERE maps redrawn in the wake of VITAS.

Madagascar was wiped out by VITAS. The plague also destroyed the French economy, which let the new corp culture in. The destabilization played a role in Quebec being able to secede. Mexico disintegrated, giving rise to Aztlan. The US was weakened greatly, which helped SAIM get going. Indonesia disintegrated. It led to the breakup of China. And then there's Africa.

There was a lot of stuff that happened, but there was medicine that proved to be effective, and that medicine was spread through wealthy areas of the First World. VITAS may not have been big enough to wipe out most of the first world, but it leveled most of the third world, and put cracks in the foundation of the first world that led to many of the changes that came later.

[ImaginalDisc]

The Wyrm Ouroboros, thanks for pulling that timeline info! You're right in that the timing might make people much more prone to blame meta, but it's such a silly damn conspiracy theory. It presupposes a plan worthy of the Underpants Gnomes.

[Sengir]

This is real Black Death material, except that while the Black Death took three years to cull 30+% of Europe's population, VITAS was taking 9 months to reap 25% of the global population.  (450 million in India alone.)

Not to mention that after the Black Death, populations did not recover until at least 1500 (population figures from that time are obviously hard to come by, but 1500 is generally accepted as the lower boundary). VITAS on the other hand was already compensated in the 2050s...

[Black]

This is real Black Death material, except that while the Black Death took three years to cull 30+% of Europe's population, VITAS was taking 9 months to reap 25% of the global population.  (450 million in India alone.)

Not to mention that after the Black Death, populations did not recover until at least 1500 (population figures from that time are obviously hard to come by, but 1500 is generally accepted as the lower boundary). VITAS on the other hand was already compensated in the 2050s...

True, but in modern times the population boom after an event can be much more dramatic.  Particularly as we don't tend to have as many contributing factors.  Once VITAS was under control, the population experienced a series of extending baby booms, resulting in large families being common and most likely by 2075, a growing issue related to the aging population and economic stagnation. More people below the poverty line may have exabrated the population boom, and without a means to enter the shrinking corporate middle class, would explain the hordes of sinless living in the barrens.

[grid_roamer]

This is real Black Death material, except that while the Black Death took three years to cull 30+% of Europe's population, VITAS was taking 9 months to reap 25% of the global population.  (450 million in India alone.)

Not to mention that after the Black Death, populations did not recover until at least 1500 (population figures from that time are obviously hard to come by, but 1500 is generally accepted as the lower boundary). VITAS on the other hand was already compensated in the 2050s...

True, but in modern times the population boom after an event can be much more dramatic.  Particularly as we don't tend to have as many contributing factors.  Once VITAS was under control, the population experienced a series of extending baby booms, resulting in large families being common and most likely by 2075, a growing issue related to the aging population and economic stagnation. More people below the poverty line may have exabrated the population boom, and without a means to enter the shrinking corporate middle class, would explain the hordes of sinless living in the barrens.

I think it is lack of Federal authority at the root of the problem. Without a dedicated effort to support growth(education,  health,etc...) any disaster, and there have been plenty, will erode the effectiveness a nation. The profit minded corporate structure is not enough...

[Ragnarok]

Looking at the historical basis for the UCAS/CAS split, and then looking to the future, are there any plans for the re-merging of these two countries in SR5?

[Reaver]

Looking at the historical basis for the UCAS/CAS split, and then looking to the future, are there any plans for the re-merging of these two countries in SR5?

Have to wait and see... anyone who is in 'the know'... can't talk about it thanks to NDAs.... and Catalyst hires some of the best legal enforcers there are!





Their lawyers seem to be only average however ; p

[Crimsondude]

Looking at the historical basis for the UCAS/CAS split, and then looking to the future, are there any plans for the re-merging of these two countries in SR5?

Someone already tried that and failed miserably.


...


Or did they?

[Reaver]

Careful Crimson....


I heard Catalyst's legal enforcement team got shiny new bats for christmas and they are dying to test them out!!



:-)

[CanRay]

I heard Catalyst's legal enforcement team got shiny new bats for christmas and they are dying to test them out!!

Please someone distract them.

They've been eyeballing my good arm.

[Ragnarok]

Looking at the historical basis for the UCAS/CAS split, and then looking to the future, are there any plans for the re-merging of these two countries in SR5?

Someone already tried that and failed miserably.


...


Or did they?

I wasn't referring to The New Revolution coup'de'tat attempt at all.

[Reaver]

I heard Catalyst's legal enforcement team got shiny new bats for christmas and they are dying to test them out!!

Please someone distract them.

They've been eyeballing my good arm.

I got your back! A nice little cabin on a nice little lake. No cell or internet service (or electricity! ) surrounded by beautiful snow covered mountains. ... a great place to hide from them and write the next great SR book!

P.S: bring lots of paper and pens.. no electricity remember :p

[Crimsondude]

Careful Crimson....


I heard Catalyst's legal enforcement team got shiny new bats for christmas and they are dying to test them out!!



:-)

Pfft. I'm crazy good at IP law.

[Reaver]

Careful Crimson....


I heard Catalyst's legal enforcement team got shiny new bats for christmas and they are dying to test them out!!



:-)

Pfft. I'm crazy good at IP law.

I would feel better if you were crazy good with a shotgun
I don't think those guys stop to discuss the finer points if IP law :p

Just ask CanRay! Sure, he'll tell you he broke his arm elbow dropping the world.... but we all know the truth

[Digital_Viking]

I got your back! A nice little cabin on a nice little lake. No cell or internet service (or electricity! ) surrounded by beautiful snow covered mountains. ... a great place to hide from them and write the next great SR book!

P.S: bring lots of paper and pens.. no electricity remember :p

So...basically Winnipeg