[theKernel]

Yea I think it is a mix of not understanding the rules and not wanting the game to crawl. Which it does, but hell, I'm learning to play as well. I love computers in real life and I want to play a tech guy in the game. I've devoted so much time into learning the game and the matrix rules that I just can't stand by and let that slip away. There is no reason I should give into his ignorence you know? I like the guy but part of his job is to know the rules. I'm going to be running a game soon and I know for a FACT he'd hate it if I did this to him (which I don't plan on) I'm one of the only "role-players" in our group and I'm punished for it. But you know what? My game will be tech leaning. :Dhahahaha

[Critias]

Have you talked to your GM yet?  Really, dude.  He can help you figure out how to handle this, we can't.

[Usda Beph]

My GM doesn't like hackers or the matrix so he kinda skrewed me over so that I'm probably going to die.
Now there wouldn't be any issues if I could just make another and he'd have to deal.
One problem, he has a rule that say we have to play the oposite of our characters when we die.
So how can I talk him out of this and show him the relative simplicity of the 'trix?
I don't want my technomancer "In'Da'Script" to die

I'd play that rule for everything it's worth. SO I make a Female Technomancer if I had a male. Or I'd choose an oposite Thechnomagic school for lack of a better term. I have a problem with those kind of GM imposed rules. If my street Sam dies I'm not making a Doc. I'm making another fighting type, cause that's MY style of play.

[Chaotic Insane]

I dunno, my doc's pretty cool.

I really only play fighters (usually more dex than strength), rogues, and magic users (and even then, only evocation and necromancy) in D&D. In shadowrun, I can only really see myself playing... essentially rogues of various flavors until we all get hacking settled out. Right now I have a speedy tweaker B&E guy and a street doc who's... pretty much an assassin. (WHOOO REPO!) It's my niche. It's what I like to play. I wouldn't really enjoy playing anything else ('cept maybe a sniper) so I'd HATE a GM that would make me tank. I do not WANT to tank. I would not know how to THINK like a tank. Do NOT make the party suffer by making me tank!

It's kinda the reverse in Battletech. Give me assault mechs or I will give you lots of stupid decisions that end up getting all these lights and mediums killed. I have purposely run a locust off a cliff because I hated the damn thing so much and saw no point in running it. I was all jacked up on flu meds at the time, but still. I play more like a slightly mobile turret in BT than like something that actually has a move rate.

[Usda Beph]

Oh I have nothing against the healers. Every group needs one, I'm just the Brother Guillian type Healer. Bro G was a Half OGRE fighter Cleric, who loved converting Orc tribes. By asking for them to convert then shaking them one after the other (breaking necks) till they "Saw the light"

Very agressive when it came to healing.

So on topic. I just couldn't agree to such a home ruling as oposite character type upon death.

[theKernel]

Yea, I talked to him.
He said hes gunna suck it up and learn the matrix buuuut he isn't backing down on the roleplaying rule

[Doc Chaos]

I really wonder, what has to happen to someone so he enforces a rule like that...

[Kontact]

If you really understand the matrix rules, you should be able to explain the whole matrix system to someone in about an hour.  At least as much as it would take to run it with very few rules discussions/clarifications.

Technomancer rules are even easier since they do away with response and program load issues, and what they add is basically a dub of the magic rules, which your GM (naturally) must already have a decent grasp of.

[Unisus]

I really wonder, what has to happen to someone so he enforces a rule like that...

It´s not that big a deal - there are some people out there who think it awfully boring to do the same times and times again - especially GMs who make the experience, that "Dangalf the Mage", "Lermin the Mage", "Magus the Mage" etc. are just one character with a whole bunch of different names (a new one after each death) played by the one player who really loves to play mages. The same may happen for each and every race and class, while race is more likely to differ a bit.

It´s the players who just change the names of their characters to create a new one, who get those rules into the gaming round.

[Doc Chaos]

Well, I hold it that people want to play whats most fun to them. If that is a mage, IMHO its not the GMs place to tell them to back off from the character class they have the most fun with (of course only if its not a munchkin, but thats another topic). But I guess thats up to the players, if they want to put up with it...

[FastJack]

Yea, it definitely is a case-by-case kind of rule. I mean, if the player just *likes* being a mage, I won't have a problem with it. If he's always playing a mage because the rules for that build are broken compared to others, then I'd put my foot down.

[Kontact]

Encouraging a dude to play something other than a hacker because he always plays hackers is WORLDS AWAY from telling a dude that he can't play a hacker because you can't be arsed to read and digest the Matrix rules...