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Grend

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« Reply #15 on: <03-05-14/1530:09> »
Hey Grend, was your guy working for a gang or something?  Most corps, even the smallest, will give their security staff decent equipment.  Though a building spider probably doesn't get the same advantage of an RCC, simply by virtue of often being wired into the building directly.  The building isn't a drone, so you don't really need an RCC.  But if the rigger was tied into the building directly, he'd use the host's ratings for Firewall and such.  Much like a decker.

He's a member of a Cascade Crow Ork Smuggling group.  He's serving as a spider for a junkyard they are running out of.   They don't have a host or decker on site.  I figured he was just running it out of a commlink, although in retrospect, I could have given him a RCC.  Regardless, RCC firewall ratings are not as good as a cheaper commlink until you get past the 64k range, so figured for what he was doing, just watching security cameras and the gates, he was good.

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« Reply #16 on: <03-05-14/1559:08> »
Perfectly reasonable.  It's a shame your decker PC is so good then.  :)

In any event, as it's been pointed out the decker PC shouldn't have been able to do what he did.  I've done that more than a few times at my table - made a call in the moment and learned it was contradicted later.  It happens.
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« Reply #17 on: <03-05-14/1605:11> »
I'm glad she is.  I want the players to succeed.  My original concern was with the ease of using the format and then reboot, but I see that was a mistake.  I think I'll just have the commlink shut down  because he was logged into his RCC that he uses for his drones only.    It will allow me to continue without a retcon and have the npc be able to function per normal (which he would have been able to do if I had not made the mistake).

That said, I'll still clear up the mistake with the player going forward.

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« Reply #18 on: <03-05-14/1638:29> »
It's always good to side on the player's side for the time being if you can't figure it out in game.

Every GM has done it before, but player's are almost always happier finding out that they got away with something they shouldn't have over not being able to do something they should have.

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« Reply #19 on: <03-06-14/1408:26> »
(a good reason for using RCC when you are a droner is that you can send instructions to multiple drones as one simple action if you use rcc and the drones are slaved to your rcc - you can also jump between drones without spending time to first jump out).

Strictly reading RAW let you slave your devices to your commlink but when you use your commlink for AR or VR it is no longer a device (it is a persona) and a persona can not be a master of a PAN.
...That you only connect your physical device with your physical commlink doesn't really hold water when you continue reading about WANs as there you connect your physical device with a Host - and host does not have a physical representation at all.

However, i firmly believe RAI is that you can (and even should - they have multiple references to that) - slave your devices to your commlink or even better the team's cyberdeck even if they use the device to form their persona (what decker does not use his cyberdeck to form a persona anyway).
....it get kinda wired though... if your opponent can get hold of a wireless device you have slaved... and then establish a direct connection to it. by RAW he will get marks on the master... and if the master is now a persona... inside a host... well, i guess he would get marks on the persona... by remote. while he is inside a host. as i said, the concept get a bit strange... :)


....or maybe deckers are supposed to carry a commlink as well as a cyberdeck?

....that you are only supposed to benefit of the sleazes rating on the cyberdeck to run silent when the decker is not actually hacking anything (or running matrix overwatch from AR).