[Sichr]

IMHO the first mentioned Cyberzombies were Alphas in Never trust an elf. And if I remember correctly, those came from Lofwyr.
Also the fact they are creating Mana void in their vincinity (Not an Aspect. -4 Void IIRC) can give them upper hand when dealing with magical oponents...I wonder if it would be -4 for each cyberzombie present...
On the other hand... if cz's are Dragons assets, why didnt they used them when fighting each other at GEMITO.

[Reaver]

from the magical side, 3 people got fingers pointed at them...


Heavendude hillbilly people (can't remember their name, basically a tradition of bloodlines only.... elven at that...and focused on saving life)

Ordo Maximus: a cabal of "wizards" in England, linked to clout and cash more then actual talent, on the surface.. Below the surface, they have been linked to everything from vampires to blood magic to toxic magic to bug spirits to.. well anything magical and bad.

Aztechnology: One of the worlds only fully PRIVATE megas, this company is just rotten to the core... and remember, "Juan the Zombie" reports had been going on for a while at this point too...

[Reaver]

IMHO the first mentioned Cyberzombies were Alphas in Never trust an elf. And if I remember correctly, those came from Lofwyr.
Also the fact they are creating Mana void in their vincinity (Not an Aspect. -4 Void IIRC) can give them upper hand when dealing with magical oponents...I wonder if it would be -4 for each cyberzombie present...
On the other hand... if cz's are Dragons assets, why didnt they used them when fighting each other at GEMITO.

I generally try to shy away from novels for things that have a rules write up. Writers are given a fair amount of room when they write their fiction, and it has to be that way... So what a novel calls a "Cyber Zombie" (if that is the direct quote), may actually only be someone at 0.25 essence, slanted by the character's viewpoint on life and reality and not actual game definations.. Also, it could be a "chicken and the egg" thing. Who knows when a source book goes from ideas to written, and if the writers of fiction have any insight to write into their stories, or are the stories the inspiration for that splat book write-up?

[Emperors Grace]

I have to read up on cybermancy (I went 1st, 2nd, 5th so I may have missed something) but...

Seems like it's in part from the Dragons, which likely are trying to get an army that they can use against Mankind. After all, the things are horribly sensitive to Essence Drain so as anti-Horror army they fail horribly. But perhaps they're trying to work out how to make them resistant against that as well, so they can enslave all of mankind and destroy the Horrors with 'em.

... this sounds awful close to a campaign I've been working on based on Ghost Rider 2099, Dunk's will,  and some reading here and there and everywhere in the books.  Except that Big D was arranging for that army to fight for us, not enslave us.

I don't want to say too much (as my players may be about) but suffice to say that the end product of all schemes is magically empowered (offense and defense) war-robots that are driven by e-ghosts.   That way they can fight horrors while not creating emotional energies for them to feed on.   Various parties, both aware and unaware of the end result, are moving for and against the program.

[Michael Chandra]

Man, can you imagine what happens if Sybil gets their hands on those?

[Emperors Grace]

Yeah, about that...  Sybil may or may not be an "unintended consequence"  of interference by certain parties in the chain of events.  As you say, containment may be a priority when they finally piece it together.

[Sichr]

Synthetic bodies + downloaded souls makes interresting possibilities. Syntetic souls escaped from research facility free in shadownet + no synthetic bodies = invasion of natural VR accessible bodies snatchers.

[psycho835]

Should we give them modified cyborg chassis as peace offering?


...Nah, let's just frag 'em up!

[Sichr]

Id say now we frag them or put them back to isolation (as cruel as it may sound). Well once horrors came, lets have an army of those cyborg chasis ready for those souls to jump in. And hope they wont side with horrors

[Shock223]

Id say now we frag them or put them back to isolation (as cruel as it may sound). Well once horrors came, lets have an army of those cyborg chasis ready for those souls to jump in. And hope they wont side with horrors

Great, now I have the funny image of a power ranger's Mechzoid fighting Cthulhu using the space needle as a weapon.

 

[SlowDeck]

Is it possible these things were actually created to fight the horrors? And are a precursor to investigations into manatech?

No one said that cyberzombies had to be successful experiments...

[Longshot23]

Is it possible these things were actually created to fight the horrors? And are a precursor to investigations into manatech?

No one said that cyberzombies had to be successful experiments...

Looking at that now, IMO cyberzombies are a work in progress. Partly because of ongoing tech R&D, partly because the ambient mana level is ramping up. Assuming cyberzombie development doesn't get abandoned between "now" and the peak mana level, what will cyberzombies be like at that peak?

[Reaver]

Is it possible these things were actually created to fight the horrors? And are a precursor to investigations into manatech?

No one said that cyberzombies had to be successful experiments...

Looking at that now, IMO cyberzombies are a work in progress. Partly because of ongoing tech R&D, partly because the ambient mana level is ramping up. Assuming cyberzombie development doesn't get abandoned between "now" and the peak mana level, what will cyberzombies be like at that peak?

Given the peak is about 2700 years away, the growth of technology,  and man's stupidity....


Best not think about it 

[Michael Chandra]

Look at it this way: The Horrors are only 1900 years away... The peak will be worse than that.

[Leevizer]

...And talking about how things are, the technology is still being further developed and tested, still, right? Which means that more and more money can and will be poured into this.

Hell, this is basically immortality. With lots of side effects. It won't take long for someone to say "hey, we've achieved immortality, but it's only temporary." (which is kind of a stupid thing to say), but at this point the question will be "how can we remove the side effects and make this last forever?"

Also. I can just see some "mad" corporate hotshot spouting about achieving immortality or wanting an immortal bodyguard or some nonsense about "my wife has been on life support for years but now I can bring her back". For run settings, you know. Just saying.

...I still can't believe I said temporary immortality.