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« on: <05-08-14/1059:10> »
Say ive got me a control rig and im in a vehicle that is rigger modded, but i've left my control box elsewhere.
Can i direct plug into the vehicle and jump in that way?
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« Reply #1 on: <05-08-14/1130:19> »
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Jumping into a vehicle is a Complex Action if you’re
in AR, or a Simple Action if you’re already in VR when
you make the jump. If you’re using a direct connection
and  already  plugged  into  the  vehicle
  or  RCC,  you  can
jump into a vehicle directly from your meat body by tak-
ing a Simple Action.

I can't find the spots where it goes into more detail, but to put it simply, yes you can.  You need to be the Owner still (or have 3 marks, but good luck getting that without being the Owner and not having a deck) and you use the Drone's Pilot rating for Matrix attributes.  Overall it's not as effective, but it stops you from getting hacked (you can disable the drone's wireless and just plug right in) so it has benefits.
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« Reply #2 on: <05-08-14/1315:15> »
Say ive got me a control rig and im in a vehicle that is rigger modded, but i've left my control box elsewhere.
Can i direct plug into the vehicle and jump in that way?
Sure you can.
Physical cable between your datajack and the rigged vehicle.
DNI from the datajack and sim module from the control rig,
this let you go full VR or jump into vehicles.
No need for a remote control console at all....
Probably not at all an uncommon way for riggers to connect.
This also make you immune to noise and jammers.

...and since you have a direct connection you might as well turn wireless OFF in the vehicle to make it immune to matrix attacks as well.
(if you don't you will have rather bad matrix attributes to defend with, unless you are rigging a bleeding edge rating 6 space ship...)

RCC is good to use when you jump in via remote (wireless).
It is also very good when you control multiple drones.
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« Reply #3 on: <05-08-14/1930:59> »
Just to note, you don't even need to plug in, if you have a commlink. The RCC is great, but isn't required for rigging. If you're just rigging one thing, you can jump in through a commlink using your Control Rig.
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« Reply #4 on: <05-08-14/2011:10> »
Why do I picture a rigger with something similar to a 10 meter retractable dog leash for his drone.

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« Reply #5 on: <05-08-14/2020:21> »
Why do I picture a rigger with something similar to a 10 meter retractable dog leash for his drone.

Well drones are considered 'dog brains'. 

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« Reply #6 on: <05-08-14/2020:58> »
Just to note, you don't even need to plug in, if you have a commlink. The RCC is great, but isn't required for rigging. If you're just rigging one thing, you can jump in through a commlink using your Control Rig.
is there an advantage to plugging in?
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« Reply #7 on: <05-08-14/2056:01> »
Just to note, you don't even need to plug in, if you have a commlink. The RCC is great, but isn't required for rigging. If you're just rigging one thing, you can jump in through a commlink using your Control Rig.
is there an advantage to plugging in?
By running through a wired connection, you have the option to shut off wireless and thus be immune to hacking.  But you can wire from the vehicle to the RCC/Commlink/Deck if you like, and wire from that to your control rig.
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« Reply #8 on: <05-09-14/0124:45> »
Just to note, you don't even need to plug in, if you have a commlink. The RCC is great, but isn't required for rigging. If you're just rigging one thing, you can jump in through a commlink using your Control Rig.

You don't need a commlink to jump in wireless.

You need a control rig to actually jump in.
You also need to be in VR to jump in.

...and to get into VR you need DNI (and a sim-module).
You have a sim-module in the control rig already so no need for a commlink or cyberdeck for that.

To get DNI you need trodes or internal datajack / commlink / cyberdeck.


You form your Persona on a commlink / RCC / cyberdeck to get better firewall against matrix attacks.
(And in the case of RCC to also get the ability to jump between devices without first taking the time to jump out in between, sharing AutoSofts with your slaved drones, sending commands to multiple drones at once, noise reduction, on the fly noise reduction with electronic warfare etc...)


To jump in [wireless or with a wire] you need, at a minimum, a datajack and a control rig
- adding a RCC to the mix give you more advantages.
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« Reply #9 on: <05-09-14/0140:36> »
To jump in [wireless or with a wire] you need, at a minimum, a datajack and a control rig

Datajack not needed, you can plug directly into the control rig.
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« Reply #10 on: <05-09-14/0205:23> »
Datajack not needed, you can plug directly into the control rig.
Depend on your reading if control rig provide you with DNI or not i guess.
(to enter VR you need DNI and a sim-module)


"There’s a list of things you need to have in order to jump into a device: you have to have three marks on the device you want to jump into, you have to be in VR, the device you want to jump into has to have a rigger adaptation, and you have to have a control rig"
"Direct neural interface (along with a sim module) is required for VR use"
"You get DNI by wearing trodes, or having an implanted datajack, commlink, or cyberdeck"
"Control rig ... has a built-in sim module"
"A sim module must be accessed via a direct neural interface (trodes, datajack, or implanted commlink)."
"Sim modules are a must-have for virtual reality of sorts, including VR clubs, VR games, simsense, and darker virtual pleasures."
"Rigger interface: When added to a vehicle, this lets you use a control rig to jump in and control it directly through immersive virtual reality"

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« Reply #11 on: <05-09-14/0210:40> »
The control rig text also mentions that having a control rig is like getting a datajack. But the text is still obscure even on that.
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« Reply #12 on: <05-09-14/0212:52> »
Depend on your reading if control rig provide you with DNI or not i guess.

The text makes it entirely clear, including explicitly using the phrase "you can use it for DNI".
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« Reply #13 on: <05-09-14/0225:27> »
As I said, it depend on your reading

Control rig: ... has a built-in sim module, so you can use it for DNI with other devices

Compare the wording to trodes or datajack:
Trodes: ...this electrode-and-ultrasound net gives you a direct neural interface
Datajack: A datajack gives you a direct neural interface


Control rig: ... has a built-in sim module, so you can use it for DNI with other devices can be read in at least two different ways:
1) It has a built-in sim module, so you can use it for Super AR or VR together with trodes or internal datajack / commlink / cyberdeck.
2) It has a built-in sim module and it also gives you a direct neural interface.


Sim module in it self does not provide DNI.
So question comes down to if "other devices" are devices that provide DNI that your sim module can work with
or if "other devices" are other electronic devices you can link with if you already have DNI (and that control rig provide you with DNI)
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« Reply #14 on: <05-09-14/0243:35> »
I take it we're ignoring the "like a free datajack" part of the description too?
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