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« on: <06-08-14/2235:46> »
So I was running Splintered State and at some point the Mega Corps use some criminal syndicates to do their deniable ops and try to steal a commlink from the runners.

This got me thinking about which crime syndicates would each Mega Corp use.

Ares – Mafia
Renraku, MCT, Shiawase – Yakuza
Wuxing – Triades
Evo – Vory

Which leaves Horizon, NeoNET, Saeder-Krupp, and Aztechnology.

I'd think Aztechnology would use the Mexican Drug Cartels, but Aztechnology pretty much ate all the drug cartels, so all illegal sources of income are now legal and goes in to Aztechnologies pockets.

NeoNet and Horizon might also use the Mafia like Ares.

I can't imagine Lofwyr would use any criminal syndicates for some reason. I guess, he ironically uses Humanis Policlubs.

Anyone got more details on Mega Corps and their ties to Criminal Organizations?

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« Reply #1 on: <06-09-14/0049:50> »
The 4e VICE book has some info on this....

For the most part, most Megas actually don't use criminal syndicates that much as it has a detriment to their image (and cuts into profits)
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« Reply #2 on: <06-09-14/0151:57> »
I should imagine they would only use them in exceptional circumstances, In the 4e corporate guide it said even MCT didn't like to use Yakuza all that often.

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« Reply #3 on: <06-09-14/0329:57> »
Ares – Mafia
Not really. Ares turns a blind eye to some smuggling in and around Detroit and the Great Lakes so long as the Mafia fucked with the Quebeçois. That hasn't really been an issue in a decade, and Quebec has its own organized crime concerns.

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Renraku, MCT, Shiawase – Yakuza
The Four Oyabuns. The Yakuza invested in MCT early on, and so The Four have special influence with the corp and with the Yakuza because they're both and neither. They own 45% of MCT, and there are some gumi that pledge direct allegiance to them, but The Four Oyabun know better than to fuck up their trillion-dollar corp on the penny-ante nonsense of street crime — even if it is "organized" syndicate shit.

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Wuxing – Triades
Sometimes. But involving them means getting involved in the conflict between triads that are either aligned with Lung or other parties.

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Evo – Vory
Nope. The Vory is one of the major factions always vying for influence with the Russian government and its internal factions, and its biggest competition is Saeder-Krupp and Evo.

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I'd think Aztechnology would use the Mexican Drug Cartels, but Aztechnology pretty much ate all the drug cartels, so all illegal sources of income are now legal and goes in to Aztechnologies pockets.
It didn't eat all the cartels. It is all the cartels (the non-Ghost Cartels, anyway). It was a money-laundering front that became more profitable than the drug trade (which is saying a lot). It sells all those drugs legally now.

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NeoNet and Horizon might also use the Mafia like Ares.
Celedyr has his own gang of English ne'er-do wells, the Knights of Rage, which may also count Darren Villiers among its members. But they don't really bother themselves with the mob.

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I can't imagine Lofwyr would use any criminal syndicates for some reason. I guess, he ironically uses Humanis Policlubs.
No, but his brother did back in the 2050s. And then took over some Winternight cells around 2060-61.


The important thing to note is that many of the corps are worth far more than the syndicates combined, so it's only worth using them if it's really worth the corps' time and money. And given the location and circumstances, C.R.E.A.M. Allegiance between corps and syndicates doesn't mean shit.
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« Reply #4 on: <06-09-14/0538:53> »
I should imagine they would only use them in exceptional circumstances, In the 4e corporate guide it said even MCT didn't like to use Yakuza all that often.
exceptional circumstances ?
I thought thats what Shadowrunners are for ??!

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« Reply #5 on: <06-09-14/0558:33> »
I should imagine they would only use them in exceptional circumstances, In the 4e corporate guide it said even MCT didn't like to use Yakuza all that often.
exceptional circumstances ?
I thought thats what Shadowrunners are for ??!

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« Reply #6 on: <06-09-14/0710:02> »
I should imagine they would only use them in exceptional circumstances, In the 4e corporate guide it said even MCT didn't like to use Yakuza all that often.
exceptional circumstances ?
I thought thats what Shadowrunners are for ??!

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Thats what I meant, usually they would hire shadowrunners, so they would only go to criminal syndicates in exceptional circumstances. e.g they need some runners with a lot of street cred dead, and cant risk going to any fixer in the city since they may warn the runners.

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« Reply #7 on: <06-09-14/0810:09> »
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e.g they need some runners with a lot of street cred dead, and cant risk going to any fixer in the city since they may warn the runners.
Than they'd hire Runners from another Plex ( which isquite usual for a Nation/Countrywide Megacon)
Who knows if those Runners-to-be-Geeked don't have any connection to the Mob themselves ;)

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« Reply #8 on: <06-09-14/0947:41> »
Ares – Mafia
Not really. Ares turns a blind eye to some smuggling in and around Detroit and the Great Lakes so long as the Mafia fucked with the Quebeçois. That hasn't really been an issue in a decade, and Quebec has its own organized crime concerns.

Hey Crimsondude, I've been meaning to ask: why does Ares use the Ciarnello family as hired muscle in Splintered State?  Wouldn't they just throw a KE team together instead?
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« Reply #9 on: <06-09-14/1317:03> »
Beats me. I had nothing to do with that.

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« Reply #10 on: <06-09-14/1418:34> »
For the same reason Ares goes outside the company for anything else: they don't want the left hand to know what the right is doing. Brining in KE likely brings in other divisions within Ares, perhaps divisions from another faction within the company. Bringing in official sources means that there is going to be official paperwork that will be available to those with clearance to see it, including the other board members. This not only means the two (living) board members who hate eachother, but also Nadja Daviar, because even though her proxy is dead, she still is entitled to all the reports a seat on the board entitles her to. On the other hand, shadowrunners and crime families get paid out of the 'black' budget, that there are no files on. No connection to the company. And then there's the fact that you use the right tool for the right job. You don't cut a tree with a scalpel, and you don't do surgery with a chainsaw.
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« Reply #11 on: <06-09-14/1520:13> »
Hell I always figured the only reason the organized crime guys don't incorporate is because the Corporate Court doesn't want any more competition. Particularly not from groups as cutthroat and nasty as the AAAs.

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« Reply #12 on: <06-09-14/1621:45> »
One organized crime group did. They're currently called Aztechnology.
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« Reply #13 on: <06-09-14/1626:41> »
One organized crime group did. They're currently called Aztechnology.

So THAT'S why there is not a Mafia, Inc. What was it from Snow Crash? Uncle Gino's Pizza?

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« Reply #14 on: <06-09-14/1728:37> »
One organized crime group did. They're currently called Aztechnology.

So THAT'S why there is not a Mafia, Inc. What was it from Snow Crash? Uncle Gino's Pizza?

I found information in Sixth World Almanac and a couple others. But, basically, they were originally the ORO Corporation, which itself was three drug cartels banding together.
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