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« Reply #30 on: <11-17-14/0144:08> »
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« Reply #31 on: <11-17-14/2310:10> »
Pixie dust is the speedball of leal and novacoke, I believe. It was in Arsenal, IIRC.

Ah so snapchat for the 6th world. What happens at the Pixie party stays at the pixie party ;)
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« Reply #32 on: <11-23-14/1241:41> »
As a GM I always find DocWagon biomonitor and Matrix link to a DocWagon Hospital a good way to find stealthing character

DocWagon contract leave trace behind you, never a good idea for a ShadowRunner. I presume that a "more advance" contract protect you from a MegaCorp buying your information from DocWagon but to you want to live with this kind of paranoia

DocWagon contract need "normaly" to be link to a working SIN I presume

and what if you have to make a run against DocWagon ?  :-\

Have fun thinking about that, they're no good answer

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« Reply #33 on: <11-23-14/1248:34> »
As a GM I always find DocWagon biomonitor and Matrix link to a DocWagon Hospital a good way to find stealthing character

DocWagon contract leave trace behind you, never a good idea for a ShadowRunner. I presume that a "more advance" contract protect you from a MegaCorp buying your information from DocWagon but to you want to live with this kind of paranoia

DocWagon contract need "normaly" to be link to a working SIN I presume

and what if you have to make a run against DocWagon ?  :-\

Have fun thinking about that, they're no good answer

DocWagon's bottom line depends on discretion. Many high end corp types have contracts with them and if every little flesh wound by every little shadowrunning snafu was made public, they wouldn't hold that contract long. It's also a dog eat dog world out there. If they start getting in bed with the corps or taking sides then they will get bought out by one of the big dogs who sees weakness or a threat.

I have always assume DocWagons application process was a two step process. Did the check clear? If yes then probin time!

A run against DocWagon would be problematic, but that's why you just don't get caught. If you leave no evidence behind there is nothing for them to check against the database  8)
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« Reply #34 on: <11-23-14/1248:54> »
As a GM I always find DocWagon biomonitor and Matrix link to a DocWagon Hospital a good way to find stealthing character

DocWagon contract leave trace behind you, never a good idea for a ShadowRunner. I presume that a "more advance" contract protect you from a MegaCorp buying your information from DocWagon but to you want to live with this kind of paranoia

DocWagon contract need "normaly" to be link to a working SIN I presume

and what if you have to make a run against DocWagon ?  :-\

Have fun thinking about that, they're no good answer

1) If they're being stupid about it, maybe.
2) They're not going to be very likely to sell your biometric data like that because of the risk of losing the contract, at least as long as you keep your payments up.
3) A working SIN need not necessarily be a real one (though, personally, I generally take a real one).
4) Running on DocWagon? Hell no. I'm not burning that bridge.
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« Reply #35 on: <11-23-14/1256:42> »
DocWagon contract leave trace behind you, never a good idea for a ShadowRunner. I presume that a "more advance" contract protect you from a MegaCorp buying your information from DocWagon but to you want to live with this kind of paranoia
No it doesn't. DocWagon will NEVER sell data, and they don't even care about whether people with a contract have SINs. It's all about the money, and discretion is mandatory for that.
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« Reply #36 on: <11-23-14/1304:11> »
because you put your trust into a corp ?

let's say that DocWagon will not sell your information, they could always be hack

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« Reply #37 on: <11-23-14/1308:08> »
because you put your trust into a corp ?

let's say that DocWagon will not sell your information, they could always be hack

If a character is going that far down the paranoia road, I don't see how they aren't a shut-in hermit that never leaves their doss.
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« Reply #38 on: <11-23-14/1308:48> »
because you put your trust into a corp ?

let's say that DocWagon will not sell your information, they could always be hack

DocWagon confidentiality and security-that trust--is essential to their bottom line.  They have far more motivation to protect your information (and the capability to do so) than any medical contact a Shadowrunner could possibly have.

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« Reply #39 on: <11-23-14/1309:35> »
Seriously though, the books themselves spell it out. DocWagon keeps your data highly protected exactly because they know that if at any point they screw up, they are completely out of business. The only thing that can get in the way is a GM who's just looking for an excuse to screw over his players.
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« Reply #40 on: <11-23-14/1325:27> »
I presumed you're right  ;D

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« Reply #41 on: <11-23-14/2002:16> »
Seriously though, the books themselves spell it out. DocWagon keeps your data highly protected exactly because they know that if at any point they screw up, they are completely out of business.
Well, runners are not exactly a large demographic, so realistically their favor would not decide the fate of a corp the size of DocWagon. But the fluff is still clear that DW actively does not care about their clients. They won't reveal anything about their clients unless it's undeniable anyway, like if somebody gets taken in under the eyes of Lone Star (see Missions). And even in that case, they will initially drag you out and put you back together, before extraditing.

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« Reply #42 on: <11-23-14/2020:19> »
Sengir: do you mean they don't care who their clients are, or do you mean they don't care what happens to their clients?

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« Reply #43 on: <11-23-14/2041:49> »
The usefulness of DocWagon is really dependent on the campaign.  In a heavy "black trench coat" game it might end up being a way to track a character.  In other campaigns it may be that if you give them a half-ass decent fake SIN, or maybe even no SIN at all, they simply don't care as long as you pay the bill.  Speak to your GM about how he sees them.  The big downside is that they don't violate extraterritoriality.  There are still plenty of places where they are darned useful, like being hip deep in the barrens with one health box left and a bike that was overhauled by a grenade launcher strike, I would be heading to the nearest rooftop and hitting the call button. 

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« Reply #44 on: <11-23-14/2054:49> »
Sengir: do you mean they don't care who their clients are, or do you mean they don't care what happens to their clients?

They don't care who there clients are: and once they treat them, they don't care what happens to them either; but while they have them, they defend them, and they don't spill the data they hold.