[Jack_Spade]

@Volker

appreciated

@SquirrelDude
Just one little quibble: A silencer? On a Ruger Super Warhawk? THE meanest and loudest revolver in the whole SR verse!
Don't expect it to do anything else than to change it from "incredibly hellish loud" to "quite believable hellish loud"   

[Sabato Kuroi]

@GM

Corporate politics are considered professional or street knowledge in your game?
I'd like to roll for 20kMUS Marine Defense Technologies

[Jack_Spade]

Depends on what you want to know about them:

Street will give you their shadow activities, professional everything else.

[Sabato Kuroi]

Depends on what you want to know about them:

Street will give you their shadow activities, professional everything else.

Ok!
I must choose either street or professional right?
I'll go with street

Corporate Politics (street): 6d6t5 1

[Jack_Spade]

Ok, all you know is that 20kMUS gear is hard to geht in the blackmarket. They produce gyrojet weapons for special forces as well as torpedos for the military

[SquirrelDude]

@Volker

appreciated

@SquirrelDude
Just one little quibble: A silencer? On a Ruger Super Warhawk? THE meanest and loudest revolver in the whole SR verse! Don't expect it to do anything else than to change it from "incredibly hellish loud" to "quite believable hellish loud" 

I did have some second thoughts about that, but after a little consideration of how other weapon accessories worked, and other mechanics in the game, I figured that it wouldn't be unreasonable for there to be a suppressor that worked for a Ruger Super Warhawk. I'll state my case, but if it's not going to be a useful addition to my weapon, I'll humbly request that I am allowed to switch it for an imaging scope.

1. It technically only fires "Heavy Pistol Ammo." I wouldn't mind playing in a universe where you had a wider range of ammunition (9mm to .357 magnum, .556, 7.62x39 etc.), but as written, the Ruger uses the same ammunition. Thus, a suppressor on a Ruger would likely have to cover the same gas discharge as any other heavy pistol.

2. I've always kind of figured that suppressor were custom fit to their weapons, or at least to their caliber of firearm even though they all cost the same (Ares Light Fire 70/75 proprietary suppressors notwithstanding). A suppressor for an assault rifle costs the same as a suppressor for a hold-out pistol, but IIRC all suppressed weapon fire requires 1 hit on a perception test to hear (vs. 0 for unsuppressed). If a suppressor can work on an AK-97, I don't think it's unreasonable that one exists that can work on a Ruger Super Warhawk.

3. AFAICT, if a weapon (like a HK-227 or Yamaha Raiden) comes stock with an integral suppressor, a runner is still able to purchase and upgrade the weapon with a gas-vent system to help handle the recoil. Of course, this doesn't make any sense with our understanding of current ballistic technology. A gas vent system works expressly through allowing a faster and easier flow of gas outside the gun, which would make the gun louder, or at least completely negate a suppressor addition.

In really short; judging from all the other silly things in SR, I don't think it would be unreasonable for there to be suppressor that worked for a Ruger Super Warhawk.

[Jack_Spade]

I get you, the problem is that you want to silence a revolver.
It is of course possible, but requires a lot more effort to bridge the gap between cylinder and barrel.
(At least according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver)

If you want to have such a weapon, be my guest. But it' won't be as effective as a semi automatic with a closed chamber. (We are talking about 1 to 2 dice difference on perception checks)

[SgtBoomCloud]

While late to the discussion, I'll just throw in that 4e's Arsenal had an actual "revolver" silencer.  It described how it worked as a "modification that included sealing the cylinder chamber".  That being said, this is 5e, so the point is mute.

Thought I'd share

[Volker]

Without being any authority on the matter, I'm inclined to believe that 60 more years and thousands of nuyen invested in research on killing each other even better than before, they might've found ways to bypass the problems we're confronted with in 2015. Hell, if you would have told a pen and paper role player in 1955 that it could be physically possible to buy computers that can not only add 5+4, but even allow future player sto play shadowrun online when one player is in Kathmandu, another in the USA and the third in German, he would have just smiled, and continued throwing dice.

[Jack_Spade]

Yeah,
you no what: I actually do not care enough about that topic to make a big fuss about it.

I withdraw my objections, since it's rules legal in 5e.

My original objection was based on SR3 where the Ruger was explicitly forbidden to add a silencer. And as I warned you, sometimes I mix those 16 years of rules up somewhat in my head 

[Volker]

I didn't say it doesn't make sense. And since it used to be forbidden in 2064 it's only 11 years of killing research

[SquirrelDude]

Yeah,
you no what: I actually do not care enough about that topic to make a big fuss about it.

Woo.

[Sabato Kuroi]

Since Torrent dislikes giving up the smallest clue about himself(that's why he constantly disguises himself after all), he lies

Con 5 + Cha 4 + Raven 2=11 dice

Con: 11d6t5 1

of coursse I'll have to use edge for second chance

Con (second chance): 10d6t5 4


A total of 5 hits

[Volker]

I don't know if I need a Con test to hide my expression.
If so:
5d6 → [3,3,6,2,6] = (20)

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4764558/

If I get any extra dice because I'm not saying anything, feel free.

Is there any possibility in Invisible Castle to input a target number and get the scores displayed? Otherwise, I'd like to use orokos.com

[Jack_Spade]

Yes, invisible castle has a command for that:
hits(hitmin) – roll the dice and count the hits
5d6.hits(5) – (count the hits 5 or greater) – [5,5,6,2,6] = (4)

Con roles are ok. You'll see