[Senko]

I rather like that interpretation over the books version myself.

EDIT
You know thinking about it this would make a rather nice metamagic for invoking.

Initiate into the invoking school and then you can take

1) The summon greater spirit ritual.
2) The summon ally spirit ritual.
3) Advanced Summoning: By studying other traditions you have learn to summon spirits of a type other than that normally used by your tradition. When taking this select a normal spirit type not normally available to your school (list of normal spirit types, probably some mention of examples of non normal). Additionally you can add other normal types at a cost of 5 karma per type.

[Fizzygoo]

@Senko

[thumbs-up emoji]

Though I prefer:

1. "Through greater understanding and awareness of your tradition you have learned..." or "Either by studying other traditions or through greater understanding of your own you have..."

2. I wouldn't use the additional for 5 Karma. Especially given my more open reading of summoning spirits via traditions. I would do "You can take Advanced Summoning multiple times as a metamagic choice upon initiating to a higher grade, learning to summon a different spirit type each time." Or at the very least increase it to 10 Karma as I feel it should cost more than learning a new spell.

[Senko]

Maybe thing is all the magic stuff seems to be 5 (spells, rituals, alchemy, power points at creation, enchanting bonuses like govi) and I really am a little leary of tieing it straight to initiation as its 10 + 3 * initate rank and that adds up fast. To get all spirit types and nothing else your looking at 13, 16, 19, 22 for a total of 70 odd karma.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Hm.  Plus Queen, Worker, Soldier, Mother ... Blood ... what else we got? 

[Senko]

As I said no insect, blood, shadow just the ones that are typically allowed in PC traditions.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

*shrugs*  And I suggested setting the maximum 'extra' spirits capable of being called to 1, but hey ...

... not that I haven't had 'spirit-callers' in my own games, capable of conjuring any kind of spirit ... but then, I also had higher levels (at greater expense) of mage types, too ...

[Senko]

My point was more that I think the insect spirits aren't a metamagic so far as I know so the karma cost progression could be different for them. Blood yes that's a metamgic of sacrifice and the one I propose is a generic PC metamagic for those types. However I'm not sure what the cost would be for insect summoners, or toxic for that matter. Hmmmm I suppose we can go with the assumption that it requires initiation but then we must decide whether its all insects of a type or one type. I vaguely recall something about their summoning powers coming from the queens. It was obvious from the emoticon you were just making a good natured joke I was merely pointing out if your interested in calculation karma costs to gain those it'll be higher than just initiating I think.

Although that is a bit of a scary thought imagine facing a greater, toxic. blood spirit.

EDIT
On looking over toxic spirits I see they get to choose their own spirit types rather than getting ones appropriate to their specific tradition (doom, plague etc) and no roles.