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« Reply #75 on: <05-13-15/2013:29> »
Looks like a Negotiation Test is in order. I'm assuming a Teamwork Test?

Who's gonna lead?
-checks sheet- if I'm leading, we're screwed.  So I ain't leading.
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Expected that.  At least it wasn't a crit glitch XD

...also, I had to look up what calf fries were....what the balls XD
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« Reply #76 on: <05-13-15/2040:16> »
WTF, second time I've rolled improbably low.  What did I ever do to you, Orokos?  Why do you hate me?

That negotiation needed some Edge to bring me to a whopping 5 Hits... and my second point of edge spent.
That's just like... your opinion, man.

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« Reply #77 on: <05-13-15/2222:17> »
I guess I could roll two dice as part of a teamwork test, but 5 hits seems pretty good.

ETA: Also, are we to understand the offer is total or per person?
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« Reply #78 on: <05-14-15/0935:33> »
ETA: Also, are we to understand the offer is total or per person?

The offer is the total: 9,000¥ per person, 10,075¥ including bonus.


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« Reply #79 on: <05-14-15/1115:29> »
Starting Nuyen: Starting Nuyen: 4d6 14 * 100 = 1400 Nuyen

Seems like a lowball offer to me, but SRs run pay calculations are pretty stupid. They don't account at all for the difficulty of the task, only the difficulty of the opposition. Wraith isn't really interested in arguing it one way or the other. It's enough to cover her living expenses for the month.
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« Reply #80 on: <05-14-15/1131:11> »
Starting Nuyen: Starting Nuyen: 4d6 14 * 100 = 1400 Nuyen

Seems like a lowball offer to me, but SRs run pay calculations are pretty stupid. They don't account at all for the difficulty of the task, only the difficulty of the opposition. Wraith isn't really interested in arguing it one way or the other. It's enough to cover her living expenses for the month.

I have a really hard time figuring out what's fair for a job, even with abandoning the book's guidelines -- especially those for Negotiation.  Seriously 100¥ per net hit is ridiculous.  Jack, since you're a bit more experienced than I am, what would you consider a fair offer for this kind of work?
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« Reply #81 on: <05-14-15/1207:10> »
Just remember that it's 100 nuyen before the multiplier. So each hit should add anywhere from 100 to 1000 nuyen per person depending on the multiplier. This also might be considered a "cold hearted bastard" run, considering it's all about wetwork, although our targets are unlikely to be considered innocent.

Based on the pay, we're looking at a run with no complications where we're facing no more than an opposing Skill + Atttribute Dice Pool of 15.

I'm really not all that experienced about run pricing, to be honest. I've played in a number of games and the offers are all over the place. Honestly, I've often found that the fairness of pay is pretty subjective. My ork skillwire street sam usually finds pay unfair because skillsoft is so unbelievably expensive in SR5. Wraith doesn't really care, as the next upgrade for her cyberdeck is so far beyond the pale price wise that it would take dozens of runs to even consider upgrading.

I'd love to hear anyone else weigh in on the deal. I know by the book run pricing is a fairly common complaint of the system, when juxtaposed with the price of gear.
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« Reply #82 on: <05-14-15/1252:54> »
My experiences are centered around Missions.

If this was Missions and we were offered this amount up front, I would expect 500 nuyen per net hit on the negotiation roll.
That's just like... your opinion, man.

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« Reply #83 on: <05-14-15/1306:52> »
Also, asking for nuyen up front, included in the previous neg roll or shall we roll again?
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« Reply #84 on: <05-14-15/1313:48> »
Also, asking for nuyen up front, included in the previous neg roll or shall we roll again?

I neglected to address that in the IC. The Johnson is fine with what Hopeless asked for. I'll edit to IC to reflect that.

ETA: scratch that. I'll have the J respond to La Sombre
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« Reply #85 on: <05-14-15/1522:16> »
Updated IC to reflect to a change in base price to 40,000¥ and an increase in the bonus by 1,000¥ to 8,000¥.  That would leave the total for the run at 48,000¥ if the team is able to make all stipulations.

@Jayde, at the least you will need to change the percentages in your IC post that followed.  I may wait a bit to see if any other runners jump in before answering the query about the advance.
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« Reply #86 on: <05-14-15/1632:40> »
Cool.  Updated!
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« Reply #87 on: <05-16-15/1257:20> »
She touched his leg under the table?!

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Ok, we're cool.
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« Reply #88 on: <05-16-15/1521:21> »
Don't pee on yourself!
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« Reply #89 on: <05-18-15/2247:59> »
Figured I'd get this done and uploaded before it becomes irrelevant, but I finally finished a drawing of Phoenix, and went with her current meet getup :)
I'll admit this is very rough, but I wanted to get something out, so critiques are welcome and likely expected (....I can't draw hats XD)


 

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