[Rooks]

So say someone has cyberhands cyber eyes cyber ears or orthoskin and a rating 4 SIN how are you supposed to check biometrics on the guy?

[jim1701]

DNA

[Reaver]

The little faeries in the checker talk to the little faeries in the cyberware.

We can't tell you what they say, (their language breaks the internets), but just trust us, they are very busy making sure fake you is you.

So remember, leave them cookies and milk (or beer and cooked children) if you want your SIN to pass muster.

[Novocrane]

Why can't there be cybermetrics?

[Whiskeyjack]

Well for the ware you're going to be checking the "VIN" on the gear itself against the VIN attached to the SIN to make sure that lines up. Otherwise, yeah, DNA.

[Rooks]

So then why ever bother with eye scanners voice print readers and finger print scanners?

[Reaver]

So then why ever bother with eye scanners voice print readers and finger print scanners?

And HOW many people out of 7 billion have had both hands, both eyes AND their vocal cords replaced.

Other sources of biometric data:
Breath
Skin
Eye patterns
Vein patterns on hands/feet/face
Facial scupting
Body heat patterns
Dental records
Bone density/sculpt


And those are just the ones I know of today, let alone 60 years into the future.


The simple fact is we don't have enough info on how SR works beyond simple handwavium. And that is all you get. You can try to guess and whine and cry and stomp your foot, but that won't get you any answers cause there is no one to GIVE you answers.

It works accept it.

[BetaCAV]

"In the grim future of the late 1980s, there is functional biometrics"?

[Reaver]

Biometrics have been around for over 100 in one form or an other.

In the late 1800's a Czech scientist found that finger prints were unique, and could be used to identify a criminal. Shortly there after police departments around the world started taking finger prints of criminals and keeping them on file...

In the early 1900s a English dentist figured out that your teeth are also unique in the ways they age and decay. By matching known dental records to unidentified dead, he was able to ID them.

In the 1930s a US optomitrist discovered that the patterns in the Iris are also unique....

In 1980s it was found that when you exhale, you release a tiny amount of DNA that can be detected.


So yes, in  the "deep dark" 1980s they knew of biometrics. Even if the term biometrics wasn't yet coined.

fact: Babylonians used finger prints as signitures! (2000-300 bce)

[Overbyte]

http://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-information/preparing-your-biometric-services-appointment

"we will capture your fingerprints, photograph and signature digitally"

Apparently Homeland Security considers photograph and signature biometrics.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

People rarely fake their ear shape.

[Rooks]

What I'm trying to say is if its a simple DNA test then they would need your DNA for a fake SIN?

[Bulshock]

What I'm trying to say is if its a simple DNA test then they would need your DNA for a fake SIN?

For the best ones, yes.  In fact I think that is something that is mentioned that Rating 6 Fake SINs can have.  There is also tactics for dealing with that with fake DNA, namely some of the ways shown in the movie Galaga.

[jim1701]

What I'm trying to say is if its a simple DNA test then they would need your DNA for a fake SIN?

For the best ones, yes.  In fact I think that is something that is mentioned that Rating 6 Fake SINs can have.  There is also tactics for dealing with that with fake DNA, namely some of the ways shown in the movie Galaga.

The movie where the lone ship must defend itself from wave after wave of alien hordes?   

[Overbyte]

Galaga - LOL.. You mean Gattaca 

The Rating 5 SIN has real biometric data. It's just not yours.
Rating 6 - Has your biometric data.

I was thinking about this recently, and it has some nice consequences. Perhaps not everyone wants their real bio data out there so they would eschew a rating 6 SIN. But it also means you need a Rating 6 SIN if you want to have a DocWagon contract.