[vallen]

my gm has allowed me to have a non avilibility/rating/ware resticted arm a i want to go cray with it my main question is how does the ware grade effect the arm and could this character sneak it in through the front door with security in place
here
deltaware agi str armor max out with a spurs and smg hidden within the arm oh and the arm is a weapon focus
TOTAL 216550nuyen 10 karma
what cha all think of that

[Reaver]

Deltaware arm: 5
4 mods (armor, strength, agility, cyberweapon) -2

So a cyberscanner needs a 3 hits or better to find it. Not bad.

[Novocrane]

Where are you getting the cyberware scanner penalty? All I'm seeing is a dice pool bonus.

[Reaver]

Where are you getting the cyberware scanner penalty? All I'm seeing is a dice pool bonus.

That was noted in the errata as it was supposed to be a negative.
The logic being, the more augmentations you have, the more likely it was that the scanner would find something. (I believe. Won't be the first time i mixed the erratas between editions)

[Novocrane]

That was noted in the errata as it was supposed to be a negative.
The logic being, the more augmentations you have, the more likely it was that the scanner would find something. (I believe. Won't be the first time i mixed the erratas between editions)

I can't seem to find it, so I'm guessing it was a different edition thing. Still waiting for cyberware scanners to match up to the fluff provided in Runner's Companion. If the modifier is actually to the threshold, then it already does.

[vallen]

ok so the gun is still dectable is what you guys are saying right and how does having delta ware eefect the arm both rules wise and in gameplay

[I_AM_ZHOUL!!!]

Deltaware arm: 5
4 mods (armor, strength, agility, cyberweapon) -2

So a cyberscanner needs a 3 hits or better to find it. Not bad.

That's an extremely harsh interpretation of the word Implants on pg 366. The Cyberarm is 1 Implant... the other stuff is part of that Implant taking up Capacity not additional Implants. Or are Cybereyes now counted as +10 implants as well?

ok so the gun is still dectable is what you guys are saying right and how does having delta ware eefect the arm both rules wise and in gameplay

Delta makes the Threshold to Detect the Arm 5+, if it's your only Cyberware then basically it will pass any Standard or Advanced Security systems. Airports at Rating 5 might find it if they are lucky (10 Dice against 5 Hits is well above average rolling) & Super Secure sites at Rating 6 will find it a lot more often (12 dice against 5 hits.)

The only problem is that EVERY mage issue going to see it immediately not because it's 'ware (Delta makes even Assessing difficult cause it's rarely a High rated skill) but because it's a Weapon Focus. I'm guessing that the Spur is the actual Weapon Focus... which means that you are carrying around a Forbidden Weapon at all times that makes it shine like a beacon on the Astral Plane. Any respectable Awakened citizen is going to call the cops about it just walking around. Wage mages are going to prevent you from Sneaking it anywhere Sneaking it in is all that relevant. Going Obvious Cyberlimb with Bulk Modification is also defeating the purpose as well... 1 arm that is just visually noticeably larger than the other. That's a simple Perception Test of Normal for 2 with a +2 Bonus for something that sticks out in some way. Having an asymmetrical body contour is going to trigger a human brain as being wrong. Course that's assuming that you aren't trying to put a SMG in a regular Smuggling Compartment & are using the Large Smuggling Compartment needed to fit a SMG in.

So basically... you have an invisible piece of 'ware to Visual, Sensors & Astral Sight but then you made it glaringly obvious to Visual & Astral Sight. It even being Obvious Cyberlimb is kinda defeating the purpose of it being an undetectable piece of 'ware if that's your goal. Long sleeves & gloves does cover it but might not always be the appropriate dress for the climate. Someone wearing long sleeves & gloves in the summer is highly suspicious behavior... that's something that every time I've seen someone dressed like that was a drug addict (literally seen people riding bicycles in full sweaters with the hood up in +100 degree weather in August before.) So again... not hiding an invisible piece of 'ware very well.

[vallen]

ok so weapon may not the best and tge entire arm is the focus this means i can punch and use the with the modifier but the gun only gets tge bonus oh and are all weapon focues illeagal becuse i didnt see that in tge book and the ruling is that the arm has to be made to be a weapon focus and the gm says that with his ruling is that 550 more already worked into my cost oh and this is for a prime runner capain thats impossibley hard the gm can be very unreasonable with his campains so any help is very helpful indeed i mean my last character fighting 3 seriously 3 dragons so characters come and pretty dam quick and i will have to have the whole character done before monday night thank you guys a lot

[vallen]

nevermind im not going this route any due to the fact that the whole team is dead any way the gm said everyones a priority A technomancer and a mage so that changed things so im going rigger decker cybered becuase he also cut essence drop too so ive decided to be a cydered mind character so new character creation thread going up tonight thank you all for youre help sorry to end my involvement this thread for now good by

[Novocrane]

Wut.

[Doc Brian]

My brain hurts.