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« Reply #135 on: <12-05-10/1546:11> »
Long 1st ed Earthdawn gamemaster here - my understanding of the Immortal Elves in earthdawn at least was that they were the elven children of one of the Great Dragons.  There is a document released by FASA as they desolved, that had rules and hints on this, called Dragons.  In this each elf gained a +1 to Willpower (actual and potential), gained Astral Perception/Sight and one "draconian" trait.  Pointed Ears, slit pupils, etc.

The Exiled One among the Great dragons is a repeat practitioner of breeding metahuman/dragon hybrids.

So this may not be true in SR, I could have miss read things, but this means that a genetic test may reveal Draconian DNA, as well as the ability to demonstrate a draconian trait or aspect to their aura.  Also determining your paternity/maternity among the living IEs may be all they are "testing"

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« Reply #136 on: <12-05-10/1819:48> »
Immortal elves have Immunity to Age, Disease, Pathogens, & Poisons.

As best as I can recall, Shadowrun has never suggested that immortal elves have inherently better attributes. Rather it made clear that millennia of earning karma has made them world class masters of any skill they have focused on.

As I recall, every one of them is magically active, so add defenses from magic that have not even been relearned by the Sixth World yet.

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« Reply #137 on: <12-06-10/0334:20> »
As for the 'children of Great Dragons' - not so much. More like creations and sentient guardians, that supposedly were elven ancestors. And Outcast (Denairastas) was exiled for creating them, as it was forbidden. He probably was exiled along with his creations, and those were the core of the Danairastas clan of Iopos.
As for the Dragons book, it was a lot more than that. What you're describing are probably Drakes - immortal elves were just creations, they weren't related.
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« Reply #138 on: <12-06-10/0511:44> »
As best as I can recall, Shadowrun has never suggested that immortal elves have inherently better attributes. Rather it made clear that millennia of earning karma has made them world class masters of any skill they have focused on.

Harlequin has an Essence score of 8 (according to Harlequin's Back) - they mention it because the Treat and Heal spells in SR2 based their Target Number on your Essence score.
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« Reply #139 on: <12-06-10/0555:27> »
It would fit, as he has a stronger-than-usual pattern.
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« Reply #140 on: <12-06-10/1010:02> »
As best as I can recall, Shadowrun has never suggested that immortal elves have inherently better attributes. Rather it made clear that millennia of earning karma has made them world class masters of any skill they have focused on.

Harlequin has an Essence score of 8 (according to Harlequin's Back) - they mention it because the Treat and Heal spells in SR2 based their Target Number on your Essence score.

That seems odd - I could understand him having Magic 8 (as a minimum, given his initiation), but not Essence 8.  Then again, it's been years since I read up on SR2.

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« Reply #141 on: <12-07-10/0514:32> »
SR1/2 were a lot more flexible about essence ratings. Shapeshifters also had essence 8 back then. Many critters had essence below 6 (i.e. Devilrats would have 3 or 4 iirc). In SR 3 & 4 he would most likely be statted with 6.

Immortal elves where created by the dragons, not sure if they have any dragon blood, though. They would have the Immunities as stated by MJBurrage.

The guidelines mentioned above (as I recall it was Int +1, Wil +1, Astral Sight, Nightvision and natural Spellcaster (not sure what that meant in ED) + some cosmetic dragon trait like eyes, horns or scales on some bodypart) In the ED Dragons sb were for Dragonkin - any metahumans decended from a true dragon in metahuman form. The traits diluted with each generation, which is why the Denairastas Clan was so incestuous and the Outcast chipped in some genes now and then. But those are destinct from both immortal elves and from drakes.

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« Reply #142 on: <12-07-10/0518:34> »
Which leads me to new super-old bastard idea number 2. Dragon-blood vampire.  ;D

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« Reply #143 on: <12-07-10/0519:54> »
That seems odd - I could understand him having Magic 8 (as a minimum, given his initiation), but not Essence 8.  Then again, it's been years since I read up on SR2.

I always understood it to be because he was born in a time of much higher mana, and so everyone back then would have had Essence 8.  Just most of them aren't immortal...

I don't have my SR2 books to hand, but I don't remember shapeshifters having Essence 8.
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« Reply #144 on: <12-07-10/0612:11> »
In the ED Dragons sb were for Dragonkin - any metahumans descended from a true dragon in metahuman form.
And now look again how many young people got something from Dunkelzahn's Will without any appaernt reason... :P
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« Reply #145 on: <12-07-10/1809:22> »
There's actually a metagame story behind that. Most of the random tokens of esteem were for winners of a contest. People sent in their votes after Super Tuesday came out. One voter for each candidate got a prize, the whole SR line in print or something  like that. Each of the people in the will who get an unnamed token for no obvious reason are those winners.

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« Reply #146 on: <12-07-10/1823:30> »
The prize wasn't quite that grand. I don't have details, but according to Ancient File's Annotated Will, they were stuff like a stock certificate in a SR corporation or something similar.

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« Reply #147 on: <12-08-10/0407:46> »
Well, I'd still buy that for a dollar. Hell, I wouldn't mind a Dunklezahn in '57 pin.

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« Reply #148 on: <12-08-10/0520:18> »
Well, I'd still buy that for a dollar. Hell, I wouldn't mind a Dunklezahn in '57 pin.

Sure as frag beats a 'Brackhaven in '76' pin . . .

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« Reply #149 on: <12-08-10/0708:20> »
I'd vote for Harlequin. :P
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