[Senko]

I'm looking at this and trying to match up the description to the deckplans but there's some things that I can't make sense of.

1) It say's the forward cabins contain a hot room between the sleeping quarters and baths, what is a hot room?

2) I assume that the 8 crew quarters means that there's meant to be 8 crew to run it could you modify this for the single person running of the lurssen by adding drones?

3) What are those rooms between the kitchen and the bedrooms on the lowest deck and the bedrooms and the bar area on the middle deck going by the description they should be bathrooms but each of the guest quarters has its own ensuite and it would make more sense to have 1 bathroom for crew than to make this many smaller ones.

With regards to layout.

1) It say's there's a "A stairwell is located near the fore that goes up to the social deck. The aft section has a circular stair near amidship followed by a large social/dining room." I can't see this stairwell on the deckplan, in fact the only stairwell I can see are the circular one and one that appears to go down presumably to the lower deck.

3) It then goes on to say "Beyond that is another large social area built around the glass lower section of the pool on the deck above. A split stairwell near the aft of the ship leads up to the social deck." The split stairs is on the deck above not the main deck and there is no sign anywhere on this deck of a large social area built around the lower part of the pool in fact the area below the pool is divided between  warehouses, laundry and the kitchen a pool furthermore that is at the bow of the ship not the stern.

4) Moving on it says "The owner deck is the entertainment heart of the Classic 111. The aft section of the deck is also known as the pool deck, because that’s where the eight-meterlong pool is, along with its sitting and sunning areas."  As mentioned aearlier the aft section of this deck only has the split stair heading up while the pool is at the other end.

5) It say's "the central stair with access to the emergency boat decks" but there are no boat decks emergency or otherwise shown on the plan.

It goes on with stuff on the deckplan not matching the description, am I making some horrible mistake here or does the deckplan as shown in the book have only a partial resemblance to the description of where things are located in the text? It seems like they've mixed up parts of the various decks and the terms for the front and rear of the ship or whoever made the deck plan was more interested in making a very nice ship rather than matching the description. I think the 3 decks shown are the control (top), owner (middle) and main (bottom) with the lower deck holding the crew quarters not shown however there's only meant to be 2 people who can sleep on the owner deck which match's the top deck on the plan not the middle one while the sauna that's meant to be on the owners deck is on the bottom most one.

[Senko]

No one can even tell me what a hot room is?

[Jack_Spade]

Either a room to punish sassy slaves or a sauna.

Probably the last one, but with rich people you never know...

[Senko]

Cute. Probably not that though since there is a sauna elsewhere on the ship plus a turkish bath, conference room, pool and many other features. Its a very nice ship that only loses out to the Mobius in my opinion because it needs a probably crew of 8 rather than 1 rigger + drones.  I'd love to get one both for my char and in real life sadly it costs 15 million nuyen (more if you want a helicopter for the helipad) and I have no idea the equivilent ship costs in real life but its far, far, far, far out of my range probably even to rent. So I content myself with planning a run on one but to do that I need to figure out these plans/description issues.

[CitizenJoe]

Maybe it is a typo and should be bath room.

[Senko]

Definately isn't that the specific line is . . .

The two foremost cabins also have hot rooms between the sleeping quarters and the bathroom.

So its something that goes between the sleeping quarters and the bath which I admit could be a sauna type variant for the private use of that room as per your first suggestion but that seems an odd thing to have as opposed to say a dining area. Which is why I'm hoping someone can tell me what they are. Along with my other questions these deckplans are very frustrating as even laying aside the way they don't match the description they don't even seem to match themselves with rooms that aren't labelled as to their purpose or stairs that seem to go nowhere (unless that's just the way the drawing looks) and I'm not talking about the ones down to the lower deck which isn't provided but the ones that might be on the control deck or might just be a gap in the hull. Then there's the fact there doesn't seem to be a wheelhouse at all.

[Jack_Spade]

Looking at the actual text, I'd say hot room is an umbrella term for the sauna and the turkish bath.

[CitizenJoe]

http://www.superyachts.com/news/blohm--voss-introduce-the-111m-vintage-motor-yacht-856.htm


Does that solve your problem?

[Senko]

Weird since those are definately not part of the rooms going by the main deckplan which labels them (and has a unique icon) they're at the rear of the ship between the bedrooms and the conference room, secret room and office. Now to follow that link and see what it say's (hopefully since its a proper ship it wont give me headaches trying to make it make sense).

EDIT
Its actually fairly close to those deckplans for the real shop. Wish it made as much sense though. Seriously can someone please help me out here I have no idea what half the ship is used for as the deckplans don't even label huge chunks of rooms. Would it be permissable to upload and post the deckplans from the rigger book here so people can take a look at the actual ship or would that violate a copyright issue?

[CitizenJoe]

Posting the whole thing is copywriter infringement.   If you cut out a small section of it and add arrows pointing to the area in question, you're probably safe.  I've also seen image mirroring and negative inversions as a way around the letter of the law. 

[Senko]

Well ok hopefully this wont cause too much trouble especially as its primarily for their own site, still I've cut off the top deck and the side on view as well as part of the legend so anyone wanting the whole thing will need the book still. I've drawn a red square around the area where the pool is and should be. If they ask I'll use the deletion link otherwise I'll use it in 2 day's from now hopefull that'll be acceptable. This shows the bottom and middle decks which I think are the main and owner decks please compare them to the description of these areas then tell me what you think.


I'm assuming 1 which is labelled as the conference room would do just as well for dining in but obviously there is no glass bottom of the pool beyond it just that empty room since the pool as at the other end above the kitchen and laundry and the split stairwell is not on this deck but the one above. Obviously the deck above can't be the main deck as its where the pool is. Similarly if those 8 rooms between the bedrooms and the bar are meant to be bathrooms they're not labelled as such and why have that many of them? There are other issues just looking at these 2 decks but I'm interested in what people think.

[Jack_Spade]

Yeah, I'd say there was just some mix up about the directions.
The hot rooms are in fact in the back of the ship at 6 resp. 7

[Senko]

You'd think so but like I said there are other issues beyond just directions like where is the glass bottom of the pool (unless your looking up from the kitchen) or the split stairwell being on a different deck to its description? If those are the hot rooms why is the bathroom on the other side of the sleeping quarters they're meant to be between the two and 6/7 are obviously intended for multiple people to use. Then there's the fact the owners quarters is meant to be an office, conference/social room, workout room, sauna, bathroom, two walkin closets and the master bedroom. Yet there is no deck on which all those features exist and if she is walking between decks then where is the master bedroom and workout room?

If it didn't sound insane I'd say each deck and the description were all done by different people with no communication between them.

EDIT
Don't get me wrong I still love the ship its layout just has some glaring errors even if all your doing is looking at the deckplan.

[Senko]

Potentially copyrighted info deleted as I said I would

[farothel]

I'm looking at this and trying to match up the description to the deckplans but there's some things that I can't make sense of.

1) It say's the forward cabins contain a hot room between the sleeping quarters and baths, what is a hot room?

2) I assume that the 8 crew quarters means that there's meant to be 8 crew to run it could you modify this for the single person running of the lurssen by adding drones?

3) What are those rooms between the kitchen and the bedrooms on the lowest deck and the bedrooms and the bar area on the middle deck going by the description they should be bathrooms but each of the guest quarters has its own ensuite and it would make more sense to have 1 bathroom for crew than to make this many smaller ones.

I don't have the layout of this ship, but I've been on boats before (although mostly smaller diving live-aboards and not high end yachts), I can try to infer from the text.  Ships, even the high end ones, tend to be build according to the same principles because of the constraints placed on all ships.

1) I don't have the layout, but this can simply be a small room with some hot pipes going from the engineering spaces to other parts of the ship and it just happens to be there.

2) not really, as crew quarters are mostly 2 or even 3 people bedrooms (except maybe for the captain and first officer), this means anything from 16 to 24 people normally.

3) since they are close to the kitchen, it's probably some storage rooms (including a walk-in fridge) and maybe a small lift to go to the engineering deck where there would be more storage.