[CitizenJoe]

Why exactly do you feel the need to group them?

[rednblack]

I think I disagree with the assumption that different traditions sharing the same Drain stat have something in common thematically.  In fact, I think a lot of similar worldviews are spread across a number of different traditions to help players find a thematic choice that makes sense to the player.

So, let's say that we get together practitioner from each tradition and set them on a round of speed-dating.  The deepweed is thick in the air, the elven wine is flowing, and each mage gets a few minutes to talk and share their worldview.  I have a feeling that the Sioux mage would find the Chaos magician to be boorish and forceful compared to her method for weaving mana, while the Hermetic and Wuxing devotees would probably appreciate the formalism of the practitioner of the Path of the Wheel.  The druid and the Aztec would probably appreciate one another's attitude toward spirits and the land they are tied to, while laughing about the Shinto's talismans, and the Christian theurgist would reject the previous three looking outward, when they should be looking up.  '

[Hobbes]

Wacky thought, if you're talking about all Intuition Traditions you call them Intuition Traditions, same for Charisma and Logic.  And if you're speaking of a specific Tradition, or set of Traditions you use the name for that specific Tradition or sub-set of specific traditions?

 

[Sendaz]

Sounds like something one of those wacky Logic based trads would suggest.

[Hobbes]

Good one!

[FST_Gemstar]

Classify and measure -> Ensure Victory ;-)

[Rosa]

@Gradivus - My bad about the Egyptian tradition, i didn't have my books handy yesterday. I don't recall if the Egyptian tradition were logic based back in 4th ed. or if its just because it's one of those i feel had the wrong drain stat Associated with it, some of them were changed from 4th ed. to 5th ed. I totally agree that the drains stats were arbitrarily assigned more or less, which is why i personally don't try to categorize them one way or the other, i just don't feel the need to try to streamline everything, but some people would like to, so therefore as i said a suggestion that went in another direction.

But essentially when it comes Down to it, it's hopeless to try boil one magical traidtion Down to just one stat, a good case in point is the Norse tradition. Now in this 5th ed., it is apparently a logic based tradition. Now if you actually know a bit about Norse Magic, you can at least identify 3 distinct types of Norse Magic -  Seidr, Galdr and Runor with Seidr being all about induced ecstasy and contacting the spirit World, Galdr being about magical verses spoken or sung and Runor being magical runes carved or painted onto material objects. This is of course a somewhat simplified version of the differences between magic types inherent in just one of all the traditions that they choose to arbitrarily assign one stat ( logic ) to.

A Little round about way of saying "There's no way any form of categorization of traditions is ever going to be accurate, so either go with what the devs arbitrarily decided or come up with your own, one is likely to be as good and as accurate as the other".

[Sendaz]

Good one!

As an Intuitive Tradition I knew you were going to say that.

[Dinendae]

Early in the 6th world, the general public's understanding of magic was limited and Hermetic/Shamanic were OK classifications. As much as knowledge has grown, and magic has continued to change, there would be a greater understanding that not everything fits easily into those two categories. It would probably be best to mark a specific tradition by calling it what it is, instead of some broad categorization, so that people hearing the tradition's name would have some sense of what to expect.

[gradivus]

Why I'd personally prefer willpower + magic but then you run into balance issues.

Actually-no.
You only have balance issues if they keep the Centering Metamagic.
Though this is , of course, IMHO and YMMV

[Senko]

Depends more on how high your game goes I think. Centering is initation grade added to your drain check, by losing charisma/intuition/logic you lose the ability to increase attribute for an easy +4 which means you'd need to initiate and raise magic 4 times to get the same effect you can via increase attribute charisma. Thats 5 karma + some cash for the spell vs 240 karma for 4 initiations + 4 increases to magic. Now after that point is where I think you start hitting balance issues but that's a lot of karma and its all getting poured into magic + initiations no new spells, skills, increasing other attributes, qualties etc.

[Tarislar]

Here's a suggestion, that goes in a slightly different direction.

Charisma based traditions: Channelers ( since they mostly view their magic as being channeled through them from other sources ( i.e. a God or a Totem ...)

Logic based traditions: Benders ( since they usually see magic as a force to be mastered and its Laws to be bend to serve the magician )

Intuition based traditions: Weavers ( since i imagine that they would view magic as something to be shaped through imagination and inspiration, sort of like an artist ) 

I like where your going with this, but I think I'd look more at the stat for my terms...

Logic = Thinkers
Intuition = Feelers
Charisma = Lovers

or maybe

Logic = Thinkers
Intuition = Actors / Reactors
Charisma = Feelers

[Sphinx]

I'd go with:
Charisma-based = Spiritual or Devotional traditions
Intuition-based = Visceral or Natural traditions
Logic-based = Practical or Analytical traditions

For reference:
Charisma-based traditions = Aboriginal, Aztec, Black Magic, Christian Theurgy, Path of the Wheel, Shaman, Shinto, Vodou
Intuition-based traditions = Buddhism, Chaos, Druid, Egyptian, Psionic, Sioux, Wicca
Logic-based traditions = Hermetic, Hindu, Islam, Norse, Qabbalism, Wuxing, Zoroastrianism

Personally, I would swap Norse and Egyptian, making the former Intuition-based and the latter Logic-based, but it's never come up at the gaming table.

[Lysanderz]

I'm gonna go with "Occultist"


Because it seems to me while Charisma is communing, Logic is understanding, Occultist is someone who just FEELS it. Like they just..... they just can't escape it, they feel it

[ProfessorCirno]

"Cheesy"