[Moonshine Fox]

Not for lack of trying.

Do not assume the shedim are done for.

They'll probably start showing back up as the level of magic rises over time. Hopefully not in any great numbers though.

There's been a couple of posts in other threads about shedim possibly deserving as much consideration as Infected. While I don't buy into that opinion, I would like to see an expansion of what is known (or "known") about the corpse stealers. Possibly an in-character posting of a claim to have communicated with one or more shedim.

4) something else . . .

Thoughts?

It's a 'I hate your face cause it's a face' type of thing. They want to end all living things, and travel to where there are living things, to end them. I've seen a posts here and there, even back when they were first put in game, that they may be one of the least forms of the Horrors, which makes them an Evil Bad Guy (tm) in a way that no other person or group in Shadowrun has ever been.

[Reaver]

Don't mind Reaver's grumbling.

He is still sore about the last time his body got hijacked by one.

His buddies mounted a hasty rescue effort to reacquire his body before he faded.

When they tracked it down, it turns out the shedim was shacking up with his ex.

Which probably goes a long way in explaining a thing or two about the ex.

Before that I had always thought when he referred to her with terms like 'soul sucking' I thought he was just talking figuratively.

My bad, man.   My bad.

Trust me. The exwife sucks more the souls...

Reason,
Money,
Time,
Sanity,


They are all absorbed by that black-hole of a woman....




Makes Shedim look like Care Bears!

[Mr. Grey]

Don't mind Reaver's grumbling.

He is still sore about the last time his body got hijacked by one.

His buddies mounted a hasty rescue effort to reacquire his body before he faded.

When they tracked it down, it turns out the shedim was shacking up with his ex.

Which probably goes a long way in explaining a thing or two about the ex.

Before that I had always thought when he referred to her with terms like 'soul sucking' I thought he was just talking figuratively.

My bad, man.   My bad.

Trust me. The exwife sucks more the souls...

Reason,
Money,
Time,
Sanity,


They are all absorbed by that black-hole of a woman....




Makes Shedim look like Care Bears!

Shhhhh...... don't give the freelancers any ideas for a new more evil monster.


One thing crossed my mind reading this, didn't they say there were spirits similar to Shedim coming out of some manawarp in Jerusalem? Did they ever follow up on that in the game?

[Reaver]

I don't remember that at all! What book was that from Mr.Grey?
(Might have to do some reading! Yay!)

[Mr. Grey]

Shadows of Asia I believe.

Edit: found it. Shadows of Asia pg 110 and 111.

[Reaver]

Shadows of Asia I believe.

Edit: found it. Shadows of Asia pg 110 and 111.

Cool, thanks!

[Crimsondude]

There are also similar spirits but that have kept actual shedim away in  Bali.

The reference on p.111 is to shedim appearing during the AfA jihad in the 30s and people referring to them as shedim (which is a Hebrew word for "demon").

[Reaver]

There are also similar spirits but that have kept actual shedim away in  Bali.

The reference on p.111 is to shedim appearing during the AfA jihad in the 30s and people referring to them as shedim (which is a Hebrew word for "demon").

interesting.

some form of Shadow Spirits maybe?

[Crimsondude]

Unclear.

[cantrip]

Not for lack of trying.

Do not assume the shedim are done for.

Bah! If only!!
<GRUMBLES> Stoopid body snatching undead spectral jelly-fish! Always stealing my body when I go for an extended Astral jaunt....

<Stretches><Looks down>

 "What the frag? Where did this tattoo come from?!?!?!"
"I  Corpses"

<shakes fist at the dark sky>

" <insert expressive and heartfelt language here> "

"Your day will come shedim! Your day will come."
 
   -- scene from the annals of Reaver, prior to the Watergate Rift closing

[Mr. Grey]

There are also similar spirits but that have kept actual shedim away in  Bali.

The reference on p.111 is to shedim appearing during the AfA jihad in the 30s and people referring to them as shedim (which is a Hebrew word for "demon").

interesting.

some form of Shadow Spirits maybe?

In the fluff, someone comments that they thought Shedim came first with the comet. Our favorite clown says they should really edit their information.

[CitizenJoe]

As I understand it, "shedim" is Arabic(?) For "demon".  While the game rules might explicitly stat out the achetypical shedim, the game world doesn't really know how to distinguish one from any other bogeyman.  If they, as a race, call themselves "shedim" it is merely because a powerful one was Arabic when we name-givers gave it a name.  We don't really know anything about them, but the stuff we think we know comes from our own biases placed on them.  If one of their species did something good, we would simply claim that it wasn't the same species, and then give it some other name.

[Reaver]

As I understand it, "shedim" is Arabic(?) For "demon".  While the game rules might explicitly stat out the achetypical shedim, the game world doesn't really know how to distinguish one from any other bogeyman.  If they, as a race, call themselves "shedim" it is merely because a powerful one was Arabic when we name-givers gave it a name.  We don't really know anything about them, but the stuff we think we know comes from our own biases placed on them.  If one of their species did something good, we would simply claim that it wasn't the same species, and then give it some other name.

Its actually Hebrew.

If my arabic is still good, I believe demon translates to 'Shaytan'

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Shaytan, Shaitan, Satan - same thing.

[CitizenJoe]

Potato... Falafel... The point is that it is a human name given to it.  The members of this species that were caught were evil, that doesn't mean that all of them are evil.  After all, who is going to report a spirit doing good things.