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Tecumseh

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« Reply #375 on: <09-11-16/0034:23> »
I think the ruling was that Knucks grabbed the F4 sustaining focus while Uffington grabbed the F2 power focus, if it turns out to matter.

Knucks isn't a magician but I figure he has a vague sense of the value of foci (valuable) given that he grew up in Salish-Shidhe.

Knucks is in a sharing mood since he got paid, and is fond of Uffington for electrocuting the humans in such a cold-hearted fashion. Knucks will give a wild-ass guess of ¥4,000 for the combined value of the foci, which is comically low but he doesn't know better.

Knucks is willing to sell his "share" of the foci to Uffington for a third of that, which I'll round down to ¥1,250 due to Knucks' newfound esteem for Uffington. If Uffington wants to split his silver credstick between Knucks and Uffington, Knucks will let Uffington keep the foci for his own use.

If Uffington doesn't want them or decides he can't afford them then Knucks would want to fence them and split the proceeds, possibly to Uffington's talismonger, Sontag.

Knucks basically needs to set aside any and all nuyen for his lifestyle (¥2,000) and debt payments (either ¥2,500 or ¥3,750 in interest alone, depending on whether interest is based on the original amount or the +50% amount). That's ¥4,500 to ¥5,750 per month, which is less than this job netted unless the team fences the foci and does well on his Negotiation rolls. Depending on how much time passes between this chapter and a possible future chapter, Knucks might be looking at either sleeping in his car (Squatter lifestyle) or suffering a permanent box of 1P damage until he can start paying down some of this debt.

Starting another chapter a few weeks down the road sounds good. Things are moving slooooowllllly around here as it is.

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« Reply #376 on: <09-12-16/1226:16> »
I don't speak a word of French, so the phrase Expo used is straight from Google Translate. He's supposed to be saying "please be calm".

Here's a con roll for the "it was just kids with fireworks" bluff: Charisma 6 + Con 5: 11d6t5 3

And here's one for his general schmoozing and trying to ease any nervousness during the party: Charisma 6 + Etiquette 5: 11d6t5 3

Finally, just making sure: so far Expo has made ¥2500 for the job, plus ¥2175 and ¥825 each for two of his three paintings, right? So there should still be one unsold. He's going to focus on talking that one up to try to find a buyer, or motivate Marianna into doing so. Let me know if you want a roll for that. Also, is there something I can roll to determine if ¥825 is a good price for that second painting?

Also yes, I'm absolutely down for doing another chapter. I like this crew.

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« Reply #377 on: <09-12-16/1233:28> »
I don't speak a word of French, so the phrase Expo used is straight from Google Translate. He's supposed to be saying "please be calm".

S'il vous plaît, restez calme Mademoiselle is the correct way to say it ;)
Voire même Il n'y a pas de quoi vous inquiéter Mademoiselle, ne vous en faites pas. The previous sentence could be used, but it's less natural in French. Not that it matters much for what you want though of course.
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« Reply #378 on: <09-12-16/1248:55> »
I don't speak a word of French, so the phrase Expo used is straight from Google Translate. He's supposed to be saying "please be calm".

S'il vous plaît, restez calme Mademoiselle is the correct way to say it ;)
Voire même Il n'y a pas de quoi vous inquiéter Mademoiselle, ne vous en faites pas. The previous sentence could be used, but it's less natural in French. Not that it matters much for what you want though of course.

Thank you! Corrected in IC.

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« Reply #379 on: <09-12-16/1320:31> »
Uffington will agree to split his share for the foci.  Hopefully, another job comes along before the end of the month, or he's going to end up selling the Sustaining Focus to make rent. 

I'm down for another run for sure.  Fun group.
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Zweiblumen

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« Reply #380 on: <09-12-16/1656:52> »
Okay, some clarification.  I may have worded things poorly, but this was the intent:
Expo was gonna get a little extra cash since he was selling his paintings instead of just getting straight up paid.  (The deal was you do the job, she promises you your paintings sell)  That said, I accidentally dropped a bigger reward than I intended for Uff.  So I'm gonna smooth out all the numbers a bit with the help of forgetting to say how much was on the credstick Knucks found.
ETA: Forgot to add, @BN you usually charge between 100¥-150¥ for these paintings, so yeah, you got a GREAT price on one, and a really good price on the other.  Your third was priced in between the two and doesn't sell.  (this is where I didn't do a good job of separating the fluff from the crunch at the beginning)

End of day after divvying up everything I'm gonna make some command decisions here by fiat since everyone has voiced their basic intents:
Expo = 5500¥; You get MW as a contact, C3L1 and he owes you a favor; +1 loyalty with Marianna and you've gained rep in the art world.  Dunno how to express that other than PA, but that's not for your "runner life."  I'll figure that out.
Uffington = 1000¥; a Rating 4 Sustaining (Health) focus; a Rating 2 Power Focus (man, this thing is WAY too big for this run, I screwed this one up.  Uff can't bind the power focus yet, again GM fiat on this, its just because I screwed up.  But he will be able to bind it eventually.  Sorry RnB :( ); +1 loyalty with Estrella
Knucks = 7000¥; +1 loyalty with Fish Boy

Additinoally, feel free to trade karma for cash or vice-versa using the Missions rules on Works for the (People|Man).

Is there a Cash for Karma (or Karma for Cash) option?
Yes! Once between each Missions adventure you may choose to Work for The Man or Work for The People.
If you are Working for the Man, you can trade 1 Karma for 2,000 nuyen. This represents your character going out and doing the dirty, sleazy, or simply boring grunt work for a company or corporation. It pays well, but eats away at your soul.
If you Work for the People, you can trade 2,000 nuyen for 1 Karma. This represents you going out and doing some pro-bono runner work, helping out at a local soup kitchen, or doing some volunteer work. It costs you a little something, but you feel better about yourself afterward.
In either case, you may only trade away or gain a maximum of 5 Karma each time you Work for The Man or Work for The People, and it takes up one week of downtime during which you can do nothing else. You cannot do this again until after you pull another Shadowrun.


Again, a) I screwed up earlier, and b) if anyone thinks I'm being un-fair lemme know and I'll try and make it right.
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Tecumseh

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« Reply #381 on: <09-12-16/1800:57> »
I'm not sure why Knucks and Expo are earning different amounts, although I admit to being fuzzy on some of the details about how we got to this point.

It looks like Knucks did pick up a credstick off WizKid. As Knucks is 1) on drugs and 2) in a good mood from the breeder beatings, he's willing to share. I presume Amerind gangers have are perhaps more egalitarian due to the nature of their societies, and spoils of war are shared more equally as a result. If that's not true in general, then it will be true for Knucks. Either that or it's what all of Knucks' old ganger "buddies" told him to convince him to give up the lion's share of the spoils that he earned by being terrifying in a fistfight.

I'm fine if Expo makes some more for having his paintings sold, since he's obviously giving up his paintings in the process.

Expo had to give up some of his proceeds to get the name and number for TwoTooth. I think the negotiated rate was 18%. Of course, I have no idea what to multiply by 18% so Zweiblumen will have to say. Whatever the case, Knucks will chip in to cover 6%: his third of the 18%.

Since Expo is giving up his paintings it probably makes more sense for him to be at ¥7,000 and Knucks at ¥5,500. That is, unless Expo is at ¥5,500 to represent giving up some of his take to Mickey for TwoTooth's name and number, in which case Knucks (at ¥7,000) will give Expo ¥500 to help even things out.

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« Reply #382 on: <09-12-16/1810:25> »
The numbers were to represent the costs and other rewards each player got.  It was my attempt to even things out a little.  If I went overboard, feel free to re-distribute.
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« Reply #383 on: <09-12-16/1816:57> »
I don't know if Expo is expected to fork over 18% of his ¥5,500 or if that's understood to have already happened. That's the difference between ¥1000 (needs to happen) and ¥1500ish (already happened).

Does Expo have any ¥500 paintings? Maybe Knucks can buy one. What kind of paintings does Expo do? What are his media? Oil, watercolors, ... ?

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« Reply #384 on: <09-12-16/1820:00> »
Expo is *not* expected to fork over any more money.  "End of day" refers to Net results as opposed to Gross results.
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« Reply #385 on: <09-12-16/1922:27> »
For Expo this was more of a networking opportunity than anything so I'm happy with whatever amount he gets, TBH. 5,500 seems pretty fair, as long as everyone else feels that way. Tec, if you want we can say that Knucks buys that third painting, which Expo would be willing to discount down to 500. The stuff he brought to this show is all abstract, probably some mixed media. I imagine it looks a lot like this:http://payload310.cargocollective.com/1/17/547492/8512145/13-copy_o.jpg

(that art actually belongs to a friend of mine so I feel obliged to plug his work now: http://www.allandygon.com/ )

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« Reply #386 on: <09-12-16/2008:59> »
Ahh, an opportunity to slip in a meme from my favorite episode of Futurama!



Very well. Knucks is a new, proud owner of some culture that he can use to freshen up his naked brick walls and his milk crate furniture.

Knucks will likely be taking advantage of the Work for the Man option to cash in some nuyen. This might be the first time I've done this, as I usually play Awakened characters who cling to their karma like Gollum. Besides, it's not like Knucks has much of a soul left, nor a sense of shame or guilt, so I imagine soul-scarring work doesn't phase him much. I don't know how many weeks until we work again so I'll just cash in 1 karma for now. (If Zweiblumen wants to randomize it, I usually roll a 1d6 to determine how many weeks have passed.) Per the IC, it's mid-August so the new month starts in 2.5 weeks.

+ ¥7,000 payday
- ¥500 one art
+ ¥2,000 Working for the Man
- ¥2,000 Low Lifestyle for September
- ¥3,750 Interest on Debt for September (this is the stricter reading of the In Debt quality, the less-strict reading would be ¥2,500 in interest)
= ¥2,750 net

I'll put ¥2,500 of that into paying down his debt. If there's more time to Work for the Man, that will go toward additional debt payments. He'll pocket the remaining ¥250 to have on hand for non-lifestyle needs.

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« Reply #387 on: <09-13-16/0400:01> »
Per the mission rules, I allow up to 5 points of conversion per week with a max of 5 points between jobs.
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« Reply #388 on: <09-16-16/1815:03> »
I sold some karma for nuyen to help pay down Knucks' debt. I also upgraded Computer to 2, which makes me the team's tech support, in relative terms at least.

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« Reply #389 on: <09-17-16/0114:04> »
So, I'm not 100% clear on the NQ, you've got to pay the ¥¥ *and* pay the karma right?  They didn't put an actual pay-off schedule in there that I can see :/

Here's *my* interpretation.
You borrowed 25k, and your principle is 37,500
Every month you *must* pay the interest of 3,750.
You can buy off 1 rank of debt with 7500¥ and 2karma.

So, with 7 karma and 1 week, Knucks can go be the enforcer rather than the enforcee and reduce his In Debt NQ by 1 rank and net 2500¥.  (Thus trading 5 karma for 10k¥, and then seeing his local loan shark and pony-ing up.)

Does that make sense?  (Also, looks like Knucks could be out of debt in as little as 5 months! as long as we keep running every couple of weeks.)
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