[Ennui]

I'm not trying to conquer Redmond.  I'm trying to make it a better place to live and part of that is being able to fight off external threats.

[Mercy Merchant]

We have an opportunity to combine the threads for Spokane and Cynthia as they both appear to be planning on investigating the same warehouse at about the same time.  I would like to combine the threads, but want the input of the players before setting that up.  Are you two interested in working together?  If so, we can make it happen and see if it works out.  Please give me your impressions.

[Imladir]

Like I said on Dumpshock:

As for Spokane & Cynthia, I don't have any problem with it. He has NPCs with him and I'll still have the Matrix, so I'll be able to keep busy between two answers from him ^^
Though I'd really prefer the thread to be on Dumpshock. I think Stuttrboy has an account here, so it shouldn't be a problem.

[Mercy Merchant]

Thanks Imladir.  I will wait to see what Stuttrboy says.  There are still several game hours before anything would happen and that could take a day or more of RL.

[Stuttrboy]

If you want to combine them i'm fine with that.  I can actually post more often I just feel a little guilty when I'm trying to post about once a day on the DaE threads, since that's the majority of the players normal posting rates

[Imladir]

If you want to combine them i'm fine with that.  I can actually post more often I just feel a little guilty when I'm trying to post about once a day on the DaE threads, since that's the majority of the players normal posting rates

"À la bonne heure !" as we could say around here.

[Mercy Merchant]

Happy New Year to everyone.

@Stuttrboy  Do you have an account at DS?  I think the combined thread will be there because I like the post speed much better. 

[Stuttrboy]

Yeah I have an account on DumpShock

[Mercy Merchant]

Cool.  We can move you there when we get ready to combine the threads.  Thanks.

[Imladir]

Regarding Lizzie's ritual: you realise that a Force 11 ritual means you have to beat a 22 dice pool?
On the plus side, the Lodge doesn't need to be permanent, you can just use 11 reagents, and you have a Force 11 lodge for 11 hours.

You'll spend so many reagents to lower the drain anyway that 11 more or less doesn't change much...
And note that you do not know in advance how much drain you'll take: the drain value is equal to twice the number of hits on the defense roll (so on average, 14P)
So if you expect trouble and go for 10 successes from the ritual (There's 16.31% chances to get 10 or more successes on 22d), so 20P, to reduce it to 2P you'd have to pay 18 x 11 = 196 reagents (so a bit less than 4000 nuyens).

And of course, the main problem is that you have to succeed in casting that ritual. Others can help, but Sian and Glinda are at -2d on their ritual spellcasting roll (not the same tradition) and if I followed correctly, Corbin is an adept so no use here. If they even have ritual spellcasting.

I know numbers shouldn't be that important, but I find it fun to look at the stats in cases like that. So...
In any case, you'd only be able to get a number of dice bonus equal to you ritual spellcasting level, so 2 at the moment.
You'd have at most a pool of 9d6 (Magic 5 + Ritual Spellcasting 2 + Teamwork 2), so 14.33% chances of success only if you post-edge (and pre-edging is not good either, 16.27% chances). Probably best to increase that...

If you have 6, and Glinda + Sian roll decently (probably more thanks to a high Magic rating than proficiency in ritual spellcasting given their particularities...), you'd get +6, for a total of 17d (Magic 5 + Ritual Spellcasting 6 + Teamwork 6)
Now, pre-edging gets you 50.87% chances to succeed, but post-edging you reach 70.64% chances.

If you want to play with the numbers, you can go there: http://anydice.com/program/a42c
Just put the values you want in Magic / Skill / Edge / Force and calculate. Use the Table / "At least" visualisation, it's the easiest to understand, and you want at least 1 net hit.

In any case, limit is not really an issue: even without taking the BGC into account (probably a +1 or +2), you don't have a problem with the limit, since it would be 13 (11 + 2 from teamwork), and there's only a 1.16% chance that the ritual goes that high.

tl;dr: Increase your ritual spellcasting before casting the ritual ^^

[Ennui]

The lodge would negate the BGC anyway..  Thanks for the other info. for some reason I was thinking the spell resisted with just (force) dice not force x2, I knew I would need to boost that, didn't realize by how much though.

[Imladir]

It would do a bit more than that, since it aligns the BGC to you.
Now that I think about it though... It will stay for Glinda and Sian, they will have the malus on their rolls.

[Ennui]

I thought as long as the leader wasn't effected by BGC it wouldn't bother the participants regardless of tradition.  That would make it damn near impossible for other traditions to assist in cooperative magic.

[Imladir]

I'd say that's the goal...
Though if you perform the ritual in a place without BGC, then it's not a problem.

[Ennui]

Oh right, the malus is the BGC count not the lodge rating :facepalm: .  I'll ask Mercy what the BGC is at my building...a temporary lodge may be called for then. 

Hey Mercy what's the BGC at my building?