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So, bone lacing on an Unarmed Adept

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« Reply #15 on: <03-08-16/0839:28> »
cuz erratas don't make money?  Usually the answer

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« Reply #16 on: <03-08-16/1007:44> »
As an aside I don't get why they don't errata cyber snob quality's cost and allow you to buy betaware in chargen since you can only buy betaware or better with this quality.
but You can't get Betaware at Char gen.
so this pos Qual is useless !
unless CGL starts to get their Errata right.
(and it ails me even more that this Messup is also in the German Book)

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I think it was meant to be alphaware, not betware.
Of course it's supposed to be Alphaware.

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« Reply #17 on: <03-08-16/1017:53> »
Now I wonder how many wannabe-cyber snobs declared that beta-ware isn't good enough for them and they insist on receiving the latest omega-ware  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: <03-09-16/0538:55> »
Hahaha

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« Reply #19 on: <03-09-16/1333:06> »
If your characters can afford Delta-ware (much less Gamma/Omega!) you're getting a lot more nuyen for your runs than I am!
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« Reply #20 on: <03-09-16/1400:26> »
Oh believe me, you can afford Omega ware... ;D
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« Reply #21 on: <03-09-16/1604:02> »
Omega ware cost the same as Used in terms of nuyen and the same as standard in terms of essence. You just can't turn its wireless functions off
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« Reply #22 on: <03-09-16/1615:19> »
@PiXeL01

you are confusing that with Cybersuits. Omega ware is glitchy and has a drawback that's determined by the GM - a lot of people take the "costs 125% essence drawback ;) )
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« Reply #23 on: <03-09-16/1631:27> »
I actually thinking about the optional rules on p. 71 CF about omega ware. No additional essence loss but glitches or "features"
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« Reply #24 on: <03-09-16/1648:45> »
That is LITERALLY what he just said...
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« Reply #25 on: <03-09-16/1730:40> »
I was clarifying that I was not talking about Cybersuites which do give a discount but as loud with tags.
I'm so sorry I got them a little mixed up. No need to be loud about it though.
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« Reply #26 on: <03-09-16/2030:19> »
That is LITERALLY what he just said...

Actually it isn't what Jack Spade literally said...

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« Reply #27 on: <03-13-16/1427:25> »
Anyways, getting back on topic...

Especially for a human, who can't start with a strength score of 16, wringing as much damage as possible out of those fists is extremely important.  Strength, you can easily boost later to hit your augmented max.  Bone lacing is a more permanent measure, much more difficult to build upon, and once you have it, you're cut off from the more potent option.

Bone lacing goes up to rating 3.  Bone density goes up to 4, and costs less essence.  Yes, even alpha grade bone density 4 will cost you more than one essence, but that +4P to your unarmed attacks is irreplaceable.  Add in either two or four striking calluses (either each hand, or each hand and each foot, depending on how Runner Hub rules), and it's worth the two lost points of magic, easily, since when you add in Critical Strike, you're doing STR+7P damage.  If you're genetically optimized with exceptional attribute: strength and at your augmented maximum for 12 strength, you'd hit your limit at 19P baseline damage for a punch.

At normal grade, bone density 4 (restricted gear), plus four striking calluses, plus genetic optimization would run you 1.9 essence.  Worth it.

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« Reply #28 on: <03-14-16/0814:08> »
Rating 4 Bone Density "only" gives +3 to damage. The first level turns it into Physical damage. And two pairs of Striking Callus give you +2 unarmed DV. So your damage would be STR+5. Still very potent though.

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« Reply #29 on: <03-14-16/1017:36> »
Critical Strike is also in his build for 1 more point. STR +6 in the end
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