[Whiskeyjack]

Against a target who would have to be in VR and not check for the bomb. Sounds like something you put on your contact list to prevent runners from stealing it, not an effective assassination vector.

[Jack_Spade]

You can force the device to access the bomb without a check through puppeteer.

[ScytheKnight]

Basically the concept will remain just that until there's some way for non-Black ICE to deal raw Biofeedback damage unlinked to anything else.

[Tarislar]

So you set a databomb file while while you run a biofeedback program, and then con your target to open it?

Hmm.
I've been working on a Decker/Face combo character as a challenge lately.

Elf with
Logic-7
Software-7
Charisma-7
Con-6

Sounds like an idea he could try.

[FST_Gemstar]

You could possibly resonance veil to make a databombed file not look databombed.

What if first you link-lock, and then puppeteer a switch into Hot-Sim VR. I guess it gives someone the chance to send for help or try to jack-out, but you wouldn't have to worry about filling a stun track. Is that even possible? Or would you have to send someone to Hot-sim first and then lock? Or is this a "you can't puppeteer an owner" issue?

If possible. I'm seeing a Technomancer with Puppeteer and Redundancy amd maybe resonance veil. Enough resources for a cheap deck and perhaps shelling out for a Restricted Rating 6 Agent to lock and do biofeedback damage . Enough Edge/Sprites to not die and have enough dice rolling puppeteers and redundancy and to maybe sustain Resonance Veil.  I don't think you can puppeteer a persona to open a data-bombed file when logged on directly through a cyberdeck, which is why I think the Agent route may be necessary, though I'm not sure.

Technomancer will probably have to dump skills, but to be proficient at just this task, only needs high Compiling, Registering, Software, and some Computer. The technomancer doesn't have to do any of the hacking bits. Just keep the target's commlink working and do the puppeteering (and maybe the databombing)

I think this could be doable, and a really terrifying way to be assassinated.  Finding yourself forced into hot-sim, getting link-locked, your deck staying strong way longer than it should, being forced to open a data-bombed file. This is some black-trenchcoat wetwork right here.

Meta: D, Human
Attributes: B
Resonance: A
Skills: E
Resources: C

Atttributes:
Body: 3
Agility: 2
Reaction: 3
Strength: 2 (10 karma)
Charisma: 3
Intuition: 6
Logic: 5
Willpower: 5
Edge: 5
Resonance: 6

Skills:
Compiling: 6 (Crack)
Registering: 6 (Machine)
Software: 6 (Puppeteer)
Computer: 4 (Matrix Perception)

PQs:
Restricted Gear (10 karma)

Gear:
Little Hornet
+Agent (Rating 6)

38k Nuyen left
5-30 karma left (counting Negative Qualities)

[Novocrane]

Rather than attempt to get the target into simsense then kill them, why not take juryrigger and engineer an accident through the matrix?

[FST_Gemstar]

Hehe

There's that!

[ScytheKnight]

Now of course there is actually one kind of Matrix Assassin that actually works... an AI Hunter.

[Whiskeyjack]

You can force the device to access the bomb without a check through puppeteer.

Against someone not in VR you'll still just blow up the device only.

Unless you're also saying you can force a device to pull a connected user into VR?

[Jack_Spade]

Nope. But having the target in VR is the minimum requirement for the Biofeedback Assassin to work, so I didn't specify that as well.

To kill someone in AR you just hack the nearest school bus and drive him over...

[Finstersang]

Some Options for pure Biofeedback Damage without the Matrix Damage would´ve been nice.
Maybe some additional - and highly illegal - Programms for "pitch black" Matrix Attacks and Data Bombs.
Or special Sprite Types and Complex Forms.

Well, the latter might probably come with the TM supplement that will probably  come out in the next 1D6 years or so.
For the deckers, it´s houserule / custom content territory anyways.

[revan.be]

wouldnt Control Device be able to stand in for Puppeteer echo?
Since you were talking about controlling the Icon or Device , not necessarily a persona.
Begs the question whether it is possible to Control Device a thing someone has formed their persona on....

[ScytheKnight]

wouldnt Control Device be able to stand in for Puppeteer echo?
Since you were talking about controlling the Icon or Device , not necessarily a persona.
Begs the question whether it is possible to Control Device a thing someone has formed their persona on....

Yes because AIs can use this to forcibly inhabit a device.

And yes, this does break the 'One Persona per Device' rule to rather interesting effect.

[revan.be]

well its easy then , you just control device someones device into accessing a +linklocked+biofeedbacked databombed file ,
 maybe even on his own device,ACCES PORN FOLDER or if that would be too risky somehow, you can do some tricks with Garbage in/Garbage out if you know what they are going to do...

Like have an action he logically would do instead cause his device to switch from coldsim to hotsim,
have the action to switch from hotsim to coldsim be access databombed file or even attack known MCT Spider persona or whatever,
since hack on the fly , brute force and data spike all do not require any marks either ....
hmmm, maybe not the last part ......