[AwesomenessDog]

The way metatypes work in Shadowrun is that if you have mixed parentage, you end up as one of your parents or as one of the other options; no hybrids.  Orks and trolls have been known to have fully Human kids (and some Goblinize later in life, but that's a different tale). 

I think that is close but not quite right.

Pretty sure a meta can have offspring of your race or base human.  While humans can breed Human & any other single type.

But what you can't do for instance is have 2 different Meta's mate & have a 3rd Meta.

So a Troll + Ork parents can breed Troll, Ork, or Human, or Human that later Goblinizes.  BUT,  They can't make a Dwarf or Elf, Ever.

Essentially you can't have multiple dormant metatype genes.

Actually, any can breed with any and have any.

Two orcs can have a bouncing baby elf.  It's just very rare.

Two orcs will probably have an orc.  An orc and an elf will probably have an orc or elf.  Just like two white parents can have a black baby, due to expression of recessive genetic traits in both parents.  It's just rare.

Well, technically it would be like two black parents having a non-albino white baby: "White" is recessive while the three different darker skin pigmentation genes are all dominant.

[Tarislar]

Well, as Rose and MijRai both said.  MijRai gave the canonical baseline probabilities quite cleanly.

Anyone got an Example of it happening?

I thought it was similar to how Rosa mentioned & they could breed through the Human "part" of them but you couldn't have 2 meta's give birth to a 3rd meta.

[DeathStrobe]

Well, as Rose and MijRai both said.  MijRai gave the canonical baseline probabilities quite cleanly.

Anyone got an Example of it happening?

I thought it was similar to how Rosa mentioned & they could breed through the Human "part" of them but you couldn't have 2 meta's give birth to a 3rd meta.

There is a good example in Street Legends: Home Edition of 3 brothers of 3 different metatypes. I recall a dwarf, a human, and an ork. That's probably the most blatantly obvious example in canon.

And anyone that tells me that's not canon is a blatant liar!

[AwesomenessDog]

Well, as Rose and MijRai both said.  MijRai gave the canonical baseline probabilities quite cleanly.

Anyone got an Example of it happening?

I thought it was similar to how Rosa mentioned & they could breed through the Human "part" of them but you couldn't have 2 meta's give birth to a 3rd meta.

There is a good example in Street Legends: Home Edition of 3 brothers of 3 different metatypes. I recall a dwarf, a human, and an ork. That's probably the most blatantly obvious example in canon.

And anyone that tells me that's not canon is a blatant liar!

You forget that the mailman is always a factor.

[MijRai]

It's a possibility, but just because it can happen, doesn't mean it did. 

[Kiirnodel]

Well, as Rose and MijRai both said.  MijRai gave the canonical baseline probabilities quite cleanly.

Anyone got an Example of it happening?

I thought it was similar to how Rosa mentioned & they could breed through the Human "part" of them but you couldn't have 2 meta's give birth to a 3rd meta.

There is a good example in Street Legends: Home Edition of 3 brothers of 3 different metatypes. I recall a dwarf, a human, and an ork. That's probably the most blatantly obvious example in canon.

And anyone that tells me that's not canon is a blatant liar!

It is hard to convey tone in writing, so I am responding to this under the assumption you are being completely serious. If you were joking, then you can pretty much ignore this...

Street Legends: Home Edition was an April Fools product. As is often the case with Catalyst's April Fools day Shadowrun products, I would say they are probably Half and Half realistic. Usually the general premise is "joke" and the fleshed out rules are the "but what if they really did that." It falls in the same vein as Rigger 4 (with the prominent Amish War Buggy, and Battletech-style mechs), Friendship is Tragic (the adventure where the runner team is hired to fend off said Amish from killer Centaurs to the them of My Little Pony), and this years UnCONventional Warfare (which takes place at a gaming convention).

So if none of that seems at all odd to you, then yes, the three brothers of different metatypes is completely canon to the setting no "joke" implied...

In all seriousness, though, I have a question that might clarify that particular part of the discussion regarding metahuman genetics. I can't seem to find my file for Street Legends: Home Edition, and I don't quite feel like downloading it again right this minute. Are those three brothers explicitly written as being born from the same parents? I could easily see them all being half-brothers and that wouldn't break any genetic "rules."

[DeathStrobe]

Well, as Rose and MijRai both said.  MijRai gave the canonical baseline probabilities quite cleanly.

Anyone got an Example of it happening?

I thought it was similar to how Rosa mentioned & they could breed through the Human "part" of them but you couldn't have 2 meta's give birth to a 3rd meta.

There is a good example in Street Legends: Home Edition of 3 brothers of 3 different metatypes. I recall a dwarf, a human, and an ork. That's probably the most blatantly obvious example in canon.

And anyone that tells me that's not canon is a blatant liar!

It is hard to convey tone in writing, so I am responding to this under the assumption you are being completely serious. If you were joking, then you can pretty much ignore this...

Street Legends: Home Edition was an April Fools product. As is often the case with Catalyst's April Fools day Shadowrun products, I would say they are probably Half and Half realistic. Usually the general premise is "joke" and the fleshed out rules are the "but what if they really did that." It falls in the same vein as Rigger 4 (with the prominent Amish War Buggy, and Battletech-style mechs), Friendship is Tragic (the adventure where the runner team is hired to fend off said Amish from killer Centaurs to the them of My Little Pony), and this years UnCONventional Warfare (which takes place at a gaming convention).

So if none of that seems at all odd to you, then yes, the three brothers of different metatypes is completely canon to the setting no "joke" implied...

In all seriousness, though, I have a question that might clarify that particular part of the discussion regarding metahuman genetics. I can't seem to find my file for Street Legends: Home Edition, and I don't quite feel like downloading it again right this minute. Are those three brothers explicitly written as being born from the same parents? I could easily see them all being half-brothers and that wouldn't break any genetic "rules."

I actually just reread it, it's an elf, a dwarf, and a troll. All coming from the same infertile mother (metatype unidentified) but went to a fertility clinic owned by Dunkelzahn to make the perfect Shadowrunning team. And they are infact triplets. And once you get dragons involved anything can be done.

Anyway, I consider all the April Fool's products canon because they don't contradict the lore and enrich the setting, even if a bit silly.

[Kiirnodel]

Right, the April Fools products are canon the same way Deadpool and all of his shenanigans is canon for Marvel.

If you want a serious game, don't include them, but they don't technically break anything.

[Dinendae]

Right, the April Fools products are canon the same way Deadpool and all of his shenanigans is canon for Marvel.

If you want a serious game, don't include them, but they don't technically break anything.

Amish War wagon FTW! 

[Mirikon]

Hey, the Nadeshiko drone and the hoverboards from the Rigger 4 supplement were awesome!

[Wakshaani]

Nadeshiko is, more or less, in Rigger 5.

I haven't gotten the hoverboard in yet, but, eventually!

[Blue Rose]

You mean the iDoll?  Wasn't aware that was a gag drone originally. I actually really like it as part of the setting.

I have a troll face rigger concept in the wings who doesn't want to be a big scary monster, so she uses a class 4 iDoll as her "body."

[Wakshaani]

Not a gag, but it was a decent place to get some stuff in at the time. Some of the more giggle-inducing stuff I backed away from. The best one, by far, was "Truckzilla", a giant car-eatting transforming truck that rolled around assorted demolition derby/tracor pulls and ate cars after breathing fire on them. Once i found out that we were getting an actual *battlemech*, I figure dthat space was well-occupied, so did some different stuff.

Still might make Truckzilla at some stage.

[jim1701]

Ok, this topic has officially derailed, crashed through a wall, run over a little old lady and sank into the river.   

[Dinendae]

Ok, this topic has officially derailed, crashed through a wall, run over a little old lady and sank into the river.   

And you find this surprising?