[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #107

Cynthia laughs lightly "I have a feeling that I would need those kind of services if I agreed to work with you, not otherwise you know... I don't have any enemies. Or I don't have any enemies I'm aware of. But should I work with you - I don't work for anyone, I work with someone - I guess it would come quickly if the triads ever hear about me..." she shrugs "I don't try to be difficult, but well... I suppose to you I am, it's a gift I have... I don't really need what you can do - for now at least. And I don't even need nuyens. Now don't misunderstand, it's always nice to have more, but I don't need them.

She pauses, frowning, pensive for a couple of seconds, eyes in space. "Or maybe I would, depends..." she shakes her head, looking at Marissa again "Anyway, since you told me what you can do, and I'll suppose it shows some trust, I'll hear you out and we can talk about what I would get out of our...association...at a later point. For now, tell me, why are you presenting your...goals... with the triads' businesses as noble?"

Amused, she smiles "I'd tell you you don't need to tell me too much if you think it would compromise your operations, but we're past this point, aren't we? But... well... tell me what you're comfortable with, and we'll go from here."

[VegasRigged]

"My efforts in the Barrems are in large part humanitarian. My businesses pay their employees fairly, treat them with respect and in a little while I intend to provide food and clean water to as many people there as possible. I'm not fool of course, I know such efforts will be met with resistance, hence my desire to enlist a good decker and stay a step ahead of the competition. I'm sure your aware that most, if not all, of what I've told you today in information I would have rather kept to myself."

Why did I get into this? I suppose my instincts decided if she couldn't manipulate on a personal level she would be willing to work with someone who could. I may have assumed practicality, or compassion, which given her reaction of my panic attack, which is thankfully subsiding, that compassion was fairly accurate. Hopefully this little admission will put her on my side.

I also have another option, if she isn't willing to help me, or decides to throw me under the bus, I have the Laes with which to erase this conversation from her memory.

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #108

Cynthia's eyebrows raise quite a bit "Really? I find this difficult to believe to be honest, humanitarianism in our time? I could believe there's some part of it in your goals, but there's something you must expect out of it, isn't it?"

She smiles "I'm pleased you think so highly of my capabilities even if you have absolutely no proof. I may be able to give you what you want for a while; however there will come a time when the competition as you say will be the heads of the triads. I obviously never tried, but I assume that if they were easy marks, they'd have lost their position a long time ago. How do you intend to handle this?"

[Mercy Merchant]

OOC:  I like the way you two are playing off against and with each other.  Let me know when you think I should bring Tanya back in.  Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to shorten your interaction.  I really like it.

[VegasRigged]

"Your right, there is an alterior motive to my altruism: Loyalty. I can order them on pain of death to fight for me, but they will only be loyal for as long as they think I'm the most dangerous person around. Now if I treat them fairly, give them something to fight for and a sense that I would fight for them, they will pour their hearts into every task I ask of them. This does mean I must be cautious what I wish for, but I am so capable.

"As to defeating the triads I'm afraid I must dissapoit you. I do have a plan, more then on actually, but I will not be discussing battle strategy in public, or with someone I'm just getting to know."

I smile somewhat apologetically. 'She can't really have thought I was just going to spill my master plan like some old school super villian. No, but her concerns are reasonable regarding the triads. Taking them down will require a few very specific tools.'

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #109

Cynthia shrugs "Fair enough. That's not your average motivation... And as such, it raises another question: why do you want to have an army to fight for you?" she doesn't seem shocked really, but clearly surprised.

[VegasRigged]

I choose not to contain a slight snicker at this question. My expression is condescending, no question, but in a 'that's so cute' kind of way. The expression quickly passes for one of contemplation. "Why do I want an army? Well first their not just an army, their a functional society, or they will be. As for why I want them... Let me put it this way: Nobody gets anything they haven't earned, most people don't get what they have earned, when I've earned something worthwhile and someone decides they don't want to give it to me I'll tell that person I mean to take what mine, and they will say 'you and what army?' And I will have an answer."

I take a moment to look forwar to that. Being able to strong arm the powerful into coming through on our deals.

Returning to the moment I consider my new friend "Now I think it's my turn to get a few honest answers." I fix her with a scrutizing look for an almost uncomfortable length of time "Tell me about you decking. What can you do, and roughly how do you do it? I understand theirs some expensive tech involved."

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #110

"Uh... I expected you had a more fun goal with that army than to be able to say to others they could go frag themselves..." she sighs, a bit disappointed.

After a sip of her juice, she answers "Decking is expensive yeah. The best decks are at almost a million a pop. And to be at least decent, you need a 'deck at something like 200k. It's a bit more expensive if you want an implanted one, but at those costs, it doesn't change much and it has a lot of advantages so it's a nice investment... As for what I can do..." she shrugs "Pretty much anything you can think of when you speak about hacking. If I understand right, contrary to how mages work, a hacker can do everything there is to do: snoop around in a host, track people with their wireless stuff, access camera feeds, intercept communications, etc. The only difference is in our capabilities. For example, don't expect me to infiltrate the main host of KE." she laughs, amused "But if you want to get a nice parking place in downtown, I can hack a Host to get you one."

She frowns, cocking her head, pensive for a couple of seconds "One point you'd be interested in would be my capacity to find data on the 'trix. It's difficult to assess fairly, but I'm reasonably good in that department."

[VegasRigged]

"Don't underestimate the careful use of power. It may seem trivial or immature, but when survival depends on mutually assured destruction, one need to be able to destroy."

 'Not unlike this little alliance we are building now. We can each ruin the other and until an upper hand is gained we will smile and work together.'

"How much was your deck, and would you look for an upgrade? I don't think decking KE will be necessary any time soon, but it's good to strive for greater things.as for gathering information, yes. Emphatically yes. I will likely have a list quite soon. Also, what do you know about the deeper workings of the matrix?"

This is a blind question. A friend of a friend in school said he had been doing deep matrix dives to work on a host. He tried to explain it but I'd been distracted and barely understood, perhaps I can learn more about it now.

[VegasRigged]

Ooc: that was not out loud, I ended the out loud part and started a thought right next to each other. The single quotes was in her head.

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #111

"If you say so. Seems pretty bleak to me to run after power with only destruction in mind." Cynthia shrugs.

"Anyway, I'm not looking for a deck no. Not useful at this point, and nuyens would be best spent elsewhere. Not sure where to be honest..." she frowns "If I agree to go in the chinatown barrens, I'd need something to deal with the Noise to be able to stay efficient. I know what would be nice, but we're not there yet. As for the deeper workings of the 'trix..."

She cocks an eyebrow "That's a very open question... Like What do you know of the deeper workings of Magic... Do you mean GOD? The grids? IAs?"

[VegasRigged]

I takes me a moment to remember that GOD is the grid over watch devision, but while I'd like to know more about any and all of those, what I really want to know is "How do hosts work. Not just the surface operation, but the basic programming that makes them tick."

Ooc: not sure if Cynthia has experience with this, but what Eva is getting at is the deep runs into the sort of technomancer world under the standard systems of the matrix and hosts. It's discussed in Data trails but not the other books."

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #112

Cynthia cocks an eyebrow "Oh, you mean Hosts' Foundation? Yeah, I know a bit about it. It can be really fun to go in there. As long as you restrict yourself to low level hosts, here too. Or mid-level ones from time to time, but it's a lot more dangerous. Of course, what you find there is much more interesting, but it's a hell of a lot more dangerous too."

She scowls "Of course, there are some not fun at all, but..."


Hosts Foundations are not restricted to TMs (in fact, anyone can go along with a decker with the right program) , that would be the resonance realms.

[VegasRigged]

Good, she knows what I'm talking about. Maybe this can work.

"I'm glad to hear it, I had an old friend try to explain them to me. I understood that the foundation is important, but not really how or why, so I hope we can talk about that further, however, we have left our party without us for a while now and you've barely met Sylvia. Why don't we discuss this another time?"

I'm calmer now, ready to get back to the task of partying, and maybe even enjoy some of it.

[Imladir]

[Cynthia Rawson - Sunday June 10th, 2075 - Dante's Inferno, VIP Suite] #113

"We can." she smiles a bit "But you know, you still didn't make me want to work with you. I figure you'd like to see to that before we join the others, unless you prefer to wait and think about it?"

She taps her lips a few seconds, and adds "I don't want to pressure you, but I have another job coming. In addition to the one for Tanya. And... Well, I can't wait too long before I give an answer you know. So if you want to think about it, could you let me know before we leave? Not that I wouldn't work with you after that, but the other job will have priority until it's finished. Shouldn't be too long given what I was told but, well... Some jobs tend to involve more than advertised."