[kainite311]

Season 10 mission: 4 part real life shadowrun op to steal the book from the mega corp....

Pay is minimal but you get free pop...

[AJCarrington]

If by CSI you mean CoolStuffInc, and by MM you mean Miniature Market - they don't have Kill Code listed.

(Those links are sorted by newest to oldest.)

Sigh...saw Street Lethal and read Kill Code...sigh

My bad guys

[Marcus]

You dont have to be so happy about it Mirikon!

[kainite311]

If by CSI you mean CoolStuffInc, and by MM you mean Miniature Market - they don't have Kill Code listed.

(Those links are sorted by newest to oldest.)

Sigh...saw Street Lethal and read Kill Code...sigh

My bad guys

Oh you bastard! Made me look! J/K

[Marcus]

I do think Sphinx is usually pretty understated. But I think we really need something better then good at this point. It has to push TM's a good ways up the curve. If TM's after this book aren't effective and useful, right out creation then, we probably do need to seriously consider something like a new edition solution.

[Iron Serpent Prince]

Sigh...saw Street Lethal and read Kill Code...sigh

My bad guys

'S'alright.

You were trying to give us good news, and I appreciate that.

Unfortunately, I went and got my Decker in a bit of a bind, and now I find I'm hoping that Kill Code will have details to help her out of it.  So the PDF better drop before Thursday. 

[Mirikon]

You dont have to be so happy about it Mirikon!

At this point, it is either make jokes or drink heavily, and my liver is already upset with me because of my trying to drink until I forget about RL politics.

[Reaver]

You dont have to be so happy about it Mirikon!

At this point, it is either make jokes or drink heavily, and my liver is already upset with me because of my trying to drink until I forget about RL politics.

trust an expert,  Just don't stop drinking.

Beer goes good with corn flakes.
Irish Coffee beats 40 weight any day.
Vodka goes with just about anything...

[kainite311]

You dont have to be so happy about it Mirikon!

At this point, it is either make jokes or drink heavily, and my liver is already upset with me because of my trying to drink until I forget about RL politics.

trust an expert,  Just don't stop drinking.

Beer goes good with corn flakes.
Irish Coffee beats 40 weight any day.
Vodka goes with just about anything...

Vodka-orange juice counts as a health drink.
Anything with cranberry juice counts as a 'cleanse'
Adding tomato juice means it is a lycopene enhanced
An asparagus stalk means it's a superfood
Energy boost turns it into a 'coffee' pick me up
Cream, milk, 1/2 and 1/2, ect... makes it Vitamin D fortified
An orange slice in your beer prevents scurvy
Lemon slice in your drink help prevent kidney stones

Moral appears to be that adding alcohol to anything makes it a 'new-age health" beverage?

[Hobbes]

I do think Sphinx is usually pretty understated. But I think we really need something better then good at this point. It has to push TM's a good ways up the curve. If TM's after this book aren't effective and useful, right out creation then, we probably do need to seriously consider something like a new edition solution.

Unless there is something else Ah-may-Zing! still to come TMs are still lagging, IMO.  Couple of qualities that could ease up the Mental Stat investment a bit letting you claw back a couple points for Agility or whatever.  Maybe even be able to do a pull up.  Still to short on Skill points and starting Nuyen compared to Deckers.  Just not enough starting resources to do anything other than "Matrix God".  But Deckers can cover Matrix and have a little side gig.

And TMs are still pretty much going to spend 13 Karma on Submersion to get Skinlink, and now another 20 Karma on a notaqualityQuality Stream... 33 Karma they're likely to throw at just being Technomancers before starting to pick up a side bit. 

Techno's are still totally playable, but when comparing optimized matrix specialist builds the Decker will simply have more to offer.  But the gap is much narrower than it was three years ago, so yay!  Complaining on the internet totally works!  Ha!

[Mirikon]

Does that mean a TM can have a PAN now and actually secure their own gear? Because until that happens, I call BS on the whole idea that a matrix specialist can't keep someone from hacking the goggles he's wearing.

So far, it sounds like they have a building where the foundation is crumbling to pieces and there's termites in the walls and they just slapped a new coat of paint on it and called it a day.

[Yozzy]

Does that mean a TM can have a PAN now and actually secure their own gear? Because until that happens, I call BS on the whole idea that a matrix specialist can't keep someone from hacking the goggles he's wearing.

I've seen a set of houserules that gives Technos the ability to do it from the start as well as the Bootstrap program, seemed reasonable for brain internet technopaths, even a little overpowered. But that's neither here nor there.

And yes, Kill Code has a techno quality that allows this now: One with the Matrix. At 2k, you can slave the Living Persona to a commlink or a deck as part of a PAN, or be the host at 8k, or both for 10k.

[living]

wow, that changes a lot for me!
would be nice to read the rules some time....................

[AJCarrington]

wow, that changes a lot for me!
would be nice to read the rules some time....................

Indeed! Hopefully we’ll see something shortly.

[Mirikon]

Does that mean a TM can have a PAN now and actually secure their own gear? Because until that happens, I call BS on the whole idea that a matrix specialist can't keep someone from hacking the goggles he's wearing.

I've seen a set of houserules that gives Technos the ability to do it from the start as well as the Bootstrap program, seemed reasonable for brain internet technopaths, even a little overpowered. But that's neither here nor there.

And yes, Kill Code has a techno quality that allows this now: One with the Matrix. At 2k, you can slave the Living Persona to a commlink or a deck as part of a PAN, or be the host at 8k, or both for 10k.

That's... better, I guess. But a TM needing a quality when they're already karma poor to be able to do something they should have been able to do from the beginning is fucking nuts. But I don't know why I held out hope that they would actually FIX the problems instead of slapping duct tape on it and calling it a day.