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« Reply #60 on: <10-17-10/2054:38> »
Does anyone else here hate the Cherry Blossom Storm?  For some reason that particular weapon just rubs me the wrong way.  The only time I have seen it used in an interesting way was when one of my PC's kept screaming Cherry Blossom Storm every time he used the gun.  He is playing a slightly unbalanced Elven Combat Mage so it kind of makes sense.

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« Reply #61 on: <10-18-10/0313:26> »
The YSF really doesn't work with the arsenal rules... or any of the rules..  but it's a fun gun if GMs let you do concept mods.

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« Reply #62 on: <10-18-10/0334:26> »
The YSF is, in essence, a light pistol with a base damage code of 6P.  What's not to love about that?  100 nuyen for a custom grip and you are able to double tap a 6P base damage pistol with no recoil.  EX ammo and you go to 7P and AP 1.  The only downside is you have a whole 10 shots before you have to spend 40 complex actions to reload the thing.

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« Reply #63 on: <10-18-10/0554:33> »
Like Mystic, I love the Predator. Been using 'em since 2E. :) The 1911 is the perfect analogy.

My current PC is probably the first one not to pack a Predator. Instead, she attacks targets with their own weapons, stealing and scavenging them along the way, and discarding them when the job's done. (It's her Signature NQ.) She does carry throwing knives for emergencies, but that's all.

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« Reply #64 on: <10-18-10/0603:27> »
Does anyone else here hate the Cherry Blossom Storm?  For some reason that particular weapon just rubs me the wrong way.  The only time I have seen it used in an interesting way was when one of my PC's kept screaming Cherry Blossom Storm every time he used the gun.  He is playing a slightly unbalanced Elven Combat Mage so it kind of makes sense.
Here's a funny thing for you then.  The Shadowrun weapon is based upon a REAL weapon.  And it has a higher rate of fire than what they list for the pistol.  Technically, if they wanted to closely approximate the real weapon, it would use mini-gun rules for rate-of-fire.

Seriously, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRmuljq9yw and http://www.metalstorm.com/content/view/64/109/.  The weapon system is ridiculously OP if it were fictional, hence your comment, but it is a real weapon.  Which makes it cooler and a must have.

I honestly would love to have one, IRL.
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« Reply #65 on: <10-24-10/1520:06> »
Does anyone else here hate the Cherry Blossom Storm?  For some reason that particular weapon just rubs me the wrong way.  The only time I have seen it used in an interesting way was when one of my PC's kept screaming Cherry Blossom Storm every time he used the gun.  He is playing a slightly unbalanced Elven Combat Mage so it kind of makes sense.
Here's a funny thing for you then.  The Shadowrun weapon is based upon a REAL weapon.  And it has a higher rate of fire than what they list for the pistol.  Technically, if they wanted to closely approximate the real weapon, it would use mini-gun rules for rate-of-fire.

Seriously, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DRmuljq9yw and http://www.metalstorm.com/content/view/64/109/.  The weapon system is ridiculously OP if it were fictional, hence your comment, but it is a real weapon.  Which makes it cooler and a must have.

I honestly would love to have one, IRL.

I know that it is based on the Metal Storm but that current weapon system is just a prototype that I really do not see as a viable alternative to traditionaly designed small arms.  I personnally think that the YSF would be to bulky to conceal effectively.  Anyway it is just my opinion.

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« Reply #66 on: <10-24-10/1552:02> »
I've only owned one on one character and have yet to fire it honestly. I don't really see any problems with it, sure it holds alot of ammo and should probably be classified as a machine pistol but I don't see anything really unbalanced about it.
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« Reply #67 on: <10-24-10/2010:59> »
I've only owned one on one character and have yet to fire it honestly. I don't really see any problems with it, sure it holds alot of ammo and should probably be classified as a machine pistol but I don't see anything really unbalanced about it.

It really is not unbalanced and the rules for it work.  I just do not like it.  It is a personal thing I guess.  I mean everybody probably has something about 4th ed. Shadowrun that drives them nuts.  Well, this is my thing which says something about the system.  Namely that Shadowrun 4th is an excellent rpg.  I mean if the only complaint I really have is about the aesthetics of one weapon...  What else can you really say.
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« Reply #70 on: <10-24-10/2214:08> »
Let's see, my Face is running with a Viper Slivergun. The logic? Anyone so blitzed out of their mind that he can't calm them down probably didn't think to wear armor. Anyone with the presence of mind to wear armor is going to be out of his league anyway. Its got an integral silencer, 5 points of recoil compensation (for when you just have to have two bursts in that one initiative pass) and Custom look 2. Might be fun to give it an under-barrel. . .well, anything really as long as its loaded with sitck'n'shock.

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« Reply #71 on: <10-25-10/0719:04> »
The size of the real pistol (a few were made as prototypes) that the Cherry Blossom Storm is based upon is the same size as a larger caliber pistol (.44 mag to .50).  It holds more ammunition, too.  It has four barrels with 4 or 5 bullets in each one (16 to 20 rounds), IMS.
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« Reply #72 on: <10-25-10/0814:58> »
Wound up using the CB Storm as my under barrel and I have to wonder, would it have four barrels of five shots or two barrels of ten shots? I opted for the latter. Fewer ammo types but more full three round bursts. Dual CB Storms both with underbarrel CB Storms (6 barrels, or four 10 shot barrels and four 5 shot barrels per hand) could make for a very versatile weapon load.

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« Reply #73 on: <10-25-10/1045:10> »
By the fluff description it's 4 barrels with 5 shots each.

In the Shadowrun artwork they're displayed stacked vertically.

The real-life pistol the CBStorm is based off of, however, has four barrels arranged in a diamond.



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« Reply #74 on: <10-25-10/1428:15> »
SR4A p. 317 says that the Fubuki has a 10 (ml) × 4 load. Isn't that four barrels of 10 shots each?

 

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